FindernRam Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 My car has one of those automatic engine off things for when you are at lights or stuck in traffic. Supposedly to save on fuel and pollution. Yesterday after covering 17000 miles it informed me that this essential gadget had saved me 60 miles worth of fuel, or just over a gallon and a quarter. For this planet saving amount I've been lugging around a double size battery, a beefed up starter, various sensors and wires. In weight alone I would have saved more fuel by not having them, let alone the extra energy used in creating them! What examples do you have of false economy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, FindernRam said: What examples do you have of false economy? Jacob Butterfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Cheap bin liners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, coneheadjohn said: Cheap bin liners. And Kitchen roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, Wolfie said: And Kitchen roll Definitely,disintegrates into mush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Buying any tools from Aldi. Use them once, bin them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Budget Airlines Counterfeit goods Cheap shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Android phones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said: Buying any tools from Aldi. Use them once, bin them Binning Aldi tools when they’re mostly have 3 year warranty. Take em back for a refund. My paddle mixer and belt sander is still going strong after over 5 years. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, FindernRam said: My car has one of those automatic engine off things for when you are at lights or stuck in traffic. Supposedly to save on fuel and pollution. Yesterday after covering 17000 miles it informed me that this essential gadget had saved me 60 miles worth of fuel, or just over a gallon and a quarter. For this planet saving amount I've been lugging around a double size battery, a beefed up starter, various sensors and wires. In weight alone I would have saved more fuel by not having them, let alone the extra energy used in creating them! What examples do you have of false economy? You obviously don't spend much time stuck at traffic lights or in jams then I'd hazard a guess. All motorway driving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Don’t you have to apply the hand break and put into neutral for it to work? Seems a faf to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Wolfie said: And Kitchen roll Bog roll, more to the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, Boycie said: Don’t you have to apply the hand break and put into neutral for it to work? Seems a faf to me. An old one of mine used to but the last one just needed brake & clutch down if you're waiting at a junction. With automatics you just need to stop with your foot on the brake for it to cut off. My new car (automatic BMW) has this feature but also has a thing where if you're driving at any speed and take pressure off the accelerator, then it must effectively go into neutral and coasts - to save fuel. The engine revs drop to tick-over speed. Which is fine, but I wasn't warned about it and it took a little while to get used to not being able to rely on any engine-braking if you take your foot off the power to go round a bend or down a hill etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 My theory is buy cheap, buy twice applies to almost anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Inglorius said: You obviously don't spend much time stuck at traffic lights or in jams then I'd hazard a guess. All motorway driving? No! I'd say it was almost classic mixed motoring, about 1/3 on motorway (with jams) 1/3 round town and 1/3 wandering round scenic areas. It does tell me how long its been active on a typical drive, like a trip into town typically is about 3 minutes switched off, but I found buried in the menu one day a how many miles you saved since new. For @ Boycie in my car you just have to be in neutral with clutch up. Pressing clutch to go into gear starts it up again. No faf at all, barely notice it working. 1 hour ago, David said: Android phones Nah! Anything with i-xxxxx ? except you could never describe that as economic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, King Kevin said: My theory is buy cheap, buy twice applies to almost anything. Women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 stop/start technology is not for fuel saving, it's for environmental reasons. Mainly inner city pollution prevention. You can turn most of them off. But you burn more fuel starting an engine, than you would leaving it ticking over for 10 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, FindernRam said: Women? Good point ,can't beat a cheap woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Recently I had some gardening to do. Got quoted £150 for it. Thought, sod that, I’ll do it myself. Me and the wife took a day off work to do it. Once we’d treated ourselves to a dominos, and a massage each to recover from the back breaking work, not to mention the lost wages, it probably cost us a minimum of £300. Lesson learnt. I was on an army weekend a while ago, and a staff sergeant told me his wife wanted him to paint his kid’s bedroom that weekend. But he would earn about £300 for being a staffy with the army for the weekend. So he did what he enjoyed, paid a painter and decorator to do the painting. The room got painted, probably to a more professional standard, a decorator was gainfully employed, and he ended up quids in. Everyone’s a winner. The moral of of the story is, it’s almost always a good economy to get a guy in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Moist One said: stop/start technology is not for fuel saving, it's for environmental reasons. Mainly inner city pollution prevention. You can turn most of them off. But you burn more fuel starting an engine, than you would leaving it ticking over for 10 seconds. That was my understanding. I have the auto version, so it kicks in whenever the car comes to a halt (assuming engine temp and battery is all up to temp/power, of course). Unless I'm surrounded by crowds of pedestrians, I always switch mine off (so the engine continues to run). Main reason is because I just find it so bloody annoying! It does auto re-set each time the ignition is switched off/on though, so it normally takes a "stall" before I remember to cancel it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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