RamsFan10 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Who is the best out of the two. Not who should start next game, or who has had a good season. Who is the best overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckTaylor64 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Carson every time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Better goalie is Carson all day long. But in our system we need someone who can pass and he can’t, Roos can. That’s why he’s in atm and will remain in. Carson’s been out of form generally as well which doesn’t help, he let in quite a few soft goals earlier on in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Carson but he must be on the naughty step? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Carson is the better keeper but has been poor and deserved to lose his place and Roos distribution is much better - both decent for the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Millenniumram said: Better goalie is Carson all day long. But in our system we need someone who can pass and he can’t, Roos can. Pass to who? If it's the back four they just ten play it sideways. Plus it's nonsense that Carson can't use his feet. More importantly he's the better keeper and commands his area better. Perhaps Given could teach Carson to dribble, cos he won't teach Roos to be better than average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: Pass to who? If it's the back four they just ten play it sideways. Plus it's nonsense that Carson can't use his feet. More importantly he's the better keeper and commands his area better. Perhaps Given could teach Carson to dribble, cos he won't teach Roos to be better than average. The back line, midfield, anyone in space to be able to start an attack. That’s the modern style of football, starting attacks from the back, no matter how far back you’re forced. And it has to be quick, quicker than we do it sometimes yes, but that relies on people making themselves options, including the goalkeeper, and everyone in the back line (again including GK) being comfortable being passed too. Carson hasn’t been that at all, certainly not this season anyway, almost cost us many times with stupid giveaway passes. Can’t play proper possession football if you can’t retain possession from a goalkick, it’s been a huge problem for us this season as teams just keep on coming back at us whenever we get the ball back cause we don’t look after it. Not all the goalie, but it hasn’t helped. As I say, I agree he’s the better keeper, in his command of his area certainly, and I feel more confident in him off the ball without a doubt. I also actually don’t think he’s always been this bad on the ball, I used to think he was solid enough in possession. Is this the consequence of poor coaching by shay given? It’s certainly one that can be argued imo. I also don’t think Roos is the answer going forward having seen him play more games as he’s far too flappy for me. Doesn’t command his area and take charge, wouldn’t fill me with confidence as a defender. But as I say, until Carson regains any sort of passing ability we can’t play him, so Roos it if for now, and probably imo a new keeper next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Millenniumram said: Better goalie is Carson all day long. But in our system we need someone who can pass and he can’t, Roos can. That’s why he’s in atm and will remain in. Carson’s been out of form generally as well which doesn’t help, he let in quite a few soft goals earlier on in the season. So judging by your first line. "Better goalie all day long" which to me suggests all of the time, you then contradict yourself by the rest of the paragraph. At the moment Roos is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: So judging by your first line. "Better goalie all day long" which to me suggests all of the time, you then contradict yourself by the rest of the paragraph. At the moment Roos is better I mean in terms of abilities only needed for a goalie, like shot stopping, command if his box etc, didn’t make that very clear. Yes Roos is better with Carson out of form overall, but he’s still not as commanding, it’s his ball playing skills that mean we have to play him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 I would play Carson in the Bristol game and possibly in the play-offs if we reached them. All down to expierence for the bigger games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 It would be tough on Roos to drop him. He’s proven himself this season and is worth keeping. Maybe if we drop him now when there is no real reason to (ie. he hasn’t made a mistake) then he won’t sign a new contract and move on. Difficult dilemma for Frank, he wants to be fair but doesn’t want to wait for a mistake that could be costly. Carson is the better more consistent keeper no question. He would perform in the big games, Roos has done well but I genuinely believe a big mistake is just around the corner. He’s been prone to them in all his loan spells and has definitely played with fire in some of his matches this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 "Carson performs in the big games" well he certainly hasn't this season , he was awful away at Leeds and Sheffield United ,conceded a poo goal against Chelsea and has made a lot of errors this season. Roos was good against Southampton which was a big game so I wouldn't drop him based on us having big games coming up. Roos hasn't been perfect but I think overall his performances have been a bit better than Carson's this season, and I think unless he makes a horrible mistake he will be the NO1 until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibby Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Carson ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsFan10 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 Interesting results. I made this poll as I agree with the 84%. I think Roos is an ok keeper but can't help but feel a bit uneasy with him. There was a chance in the second half at B'ham that was eventually scrambled away where he was completely out of position. At Blackburn and Brentford (just from memory) he flapped or spilled two crosses. He has also made some good saves, particularly the one against Rotherham at home, but I think Carson ought to be brought back in today. It seems strange thats there is such an overwhelming consensus who is the better keeper yet such a debate over who should start, especially at such a crucial point of the season. Obviously, though, Carson has almost made mistakes this year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Think they will both be surplus next season , neither fully suite the way Lamps wants to play . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 at this stage in their respective careers it's Roos. Carson has been phenomenal for us since his arrival, but he's absolutely glued to his line and he's had that many back problems he can't get down to anything anymore, add to that that his kicking is poor in general and Roos has to be the pick for this team. Roos is by no means perfect, and we could still upgrade but for now the decision Lampard has made is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfonzoBurlonzo Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 How is Roos' distribution any better than Carson's? I dont understand that argument at all. None of roos kicks were very good today. It's not very hard to pass it to tomori about 5 yards. And Carson glued to his line? I'd rather him be there and have a chance at saving it rather than Roos rushing out and having CHIP ME written on his forehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK-Ram Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I like Carson, I like Roos, but I think a goalkeeper will be very high on the list this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Much prefer roos nowadays...quicker thinking,better distribution and just more lively... Carson is just getting older,his game was bound to start going off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Carson's the better keeper. Although if Carson can't find last season's form and continues to play like he has done so far this season, then neither are good enough. I really liked Roos early on, but he's shown that he's very ineffective at dealing with crosses. Even when he does decide to come for one it's no guarantee he'll make it his. Roos is better with his feet, which I assume is why he's playing over Carson - but it's a bit pointless for your GK to be good with your feet when our overall transitional play is so poor. Although, some of his best passes have been long up to the front 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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