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19 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:

No, I'm not that privileged.

In fact I pretty much live hand to mouth which is strange considering how brilliant being part of the EU is supposed to be...

Could be worse though I suppose, I could be Greek.

Not the EU's fault, they don't elect the government.  You live hand to mouth now, trust me, when all your costs have gone up, even by only 5%, you will realise that having tariff free and free movement, does benefit the whole of the UK.

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32 minutes ago, SouthStandDan said:

Looks like it'll be Gove vs Johnson for the Tory leadership. 

Scarier than when I was asked yesterday, should we think about marriage.

I wouldn't marry either of them.

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19 hours ago, ronnieronalde said:

I've got to find out for myself which means watching and reading a lot of tough stuff. Maybe I'll give up today ' cos whether I watch, research or care eitther way, nowt will change.

I'd recommend watching the TR 'Panodrama' video if you can find it.

Absolutely horrific that this has been  brushed under the carpet and no comment from the BBC.

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14 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

I'd recommend watching the TR 'Panodrama' video if you can find it.

Absolutely horrific that this has been  brushed under the carpet and no comment from the BBC.

More lies, the BBC have commented on it.  Please stop telling lies.

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-02-23/tommy-robinson-urges-supporters-to-cancel-tv-licences-in-protest-against-bbc/

From that, they are both as bad as each other.  Plenty of right wing and fake news sites still wetting their pants about it.

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21 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

I'd recommend watching the TR 'Panodrama' video if you can find it.

Absolutely horrific that this has been  brushed under the carpet and no comment from the BBC.

Saw it a while back, within 2 weeks he was kicked off social media.

They don't like it up 'em!

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6 minutes ago, McRamFan said:

More lies, the BBC have commented on it.  Please stop telling lies.

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-02-23/tommy-robinson-urges-supporters-to-cancel-tv-licences-in-protest-against-bbc/

From that, they are both as bad as each other.  Plenty of right wing and fake news sites still wetting their pants about it.

What lies?  What did the BBC say?  I seem to recall at the time that they said they were going to investigate John Sweeney but nothing ever came of it.

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2 minutes ago, McRamFan said:

More lies, the BBC have commented on it.  Please stop telling lies.

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-02-23/tommy-robinson-urges-supporters-to-cancel-tv-licences-in-protest-against-bbc/

From that, they are both as bad as each other.  Plenty of right wing and fake news sites still wetting their pants about it.

? that's a massive comment from the BBC right there.

'The BBC strongly rejects any suggestion that our journalism is fake or biased'.

Just goes to show they either think the general public are stupid or they are relying on people now watching the TR video.

And why would people not be wetting their pants about it, you do realise that you are in effect taxed for the BBC to feed you this rubbish?

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I tend to view the BBC as the mouthpiece of the most right-wing government of my lifetime, extremely biased towards both the Tories and the Faragers, pretty well alligned with newspapers like the Mail and the Express, whereas @G STAR RAM looks upon them as dangerous pinkos aligned with the Grauniad and socialist Worker.

So they must be doing something right.

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1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said:

I'd recommend watching the TR 'Panodrama' video if you can find it.

Absolutely horrific that this has been  brushed under the carpet and no comment from the BBC.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/wNd2bvLvyk4/

I can't help wishing that they'd waited until the Panorama hit-piece actually aired for a full gotcha, but I suppose if you're systematically deplatformed by all major video hosting sites and social media sites then you can't be certain that your exposé will be seen by anyone.

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1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said:

I'd recommend watching the TR 'Panodrama' video if you can find it.

Absolutely horrific that this has been  brushed under the carpet and no comment from the BBC.

It gets brushed under the carpet because the BBC know that people see the name Tommy Robinson and they stick the fingers in their ears, close their eyes and go na na na na na. I saw a video yesterday where a girl was being interviewed and she said TR only has black mates to hide that fact that he's a white supremacist.

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14 minutes ago, eddie said:

Ah, Tommy Robinson - whiter than white.

It's ok to be white. ? 

I don't think anyone would argue that Robinson hasn't committed criminal acts. His previous indiscretions don't make it right for people and organisations to lie about him. Indeed, if he's as terrible as they say, they surely wouldn't need to fabricate anything.

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Forget Panorama, forget the newspapers, forget that bitchute video, forget he Oxford Uni video. forget Stacey Dooley, forget the lot of them.

Watch the Oldham video and remember I was coming from it at the same angle as all of us who were "cringing" at maxjam, at G-Star and one or two others. In fact I was probably more ready than most to get stuck in to the pair of them. It was only their overall views that made me like them enough to give them a second of my time.

Come back and tell me what you think once you've watched the Oldham video.

Please, in the interest of fairness and forum community spirit, understand that I'm the least likely "racist" or "fascist" or white supremist in the world.

Forget even that I'm asking you to watch a tommy robinson video. Forget he's even in it.

Watch it and tell me what you think about the series of news reports and headlines that followed.

If you come back with a decent answer, any answer at all on that, whether I agree with your answer or not, top respect for being open minded enough to look.

It's a lovely day out so wait until you're bored or sitting down with a cup of tea. It's 20 minutes.

 

 

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3 hours ago, eddie said:

I tend to view the BBC as the mouthpiece of the most right-wing government of my lifetime, extremely biased towards both the Tories and the Faragers, pretty well alligned with newspapers like the Mail and the Express, whereas @G STAR RAM looks upon them as dangerous pinkos aligned with the Grauniad and socialist Worker.

So they must be doing something right.

I see them as what they have been exposed as...liars.

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

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3 hours ago, eddie said:

Ah, Tommy Robinson - whiter than white.

That's the thing, I don't see anybody saying he's whiter than white.

I see people saying his behaviour is not good but he makes a lot of points worth investigating. 

On the other side I see people saying 'racist', 'bigot', 'white supremacist' without even knowing what he is saying or the reasons behind why he is saying them.

Without Googling do you have any idea what is behind his views?

Or do you just lap up what the mainstream spoon feed to you?

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