Stive Pesley Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, maxjam said: So what you're saying is not everything I read in the media is true?!? Damn, better stick to reading The Guardian, they never let me down. No - not saying that. I'm saying that you forgot to make up your own mind on this specific story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Just now, StivePesley said: No - not saying that. I'm saying that you forgot to make up your own mind on this specific story Stressful weekend? You seem a bit uptight for first thing Monday morning! I took an impractical headline and made a cheap joke about it at Labours expense. @eddie replied in kind, I give him the haha emoji, done and dusted. I'll put my sensible head back on, just gotta remember where I left it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 13 hours ago, 1of4 said: At the moment there's only one party holding a contest to elected a new leader. Wrong, Lib Dems are also looking for a new leader. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Liberal_Democrats_leadership_election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, McRamFan said: Wrong, Lib Dems are also looking for a new leader. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Liberal_Democrats_leadership_election So are UKIP, if you still count them as a political party! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, McRamFan said: Wrong, Lib Dems are also looking for a new leader. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Liberal_Democrats_leadership_election I think the original quote should have been "There is only one batshit insane party holding a contest to elect the most batshit insane person they can find to be leader" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 minute ago, maxjam said: So are UKIP, if you still count them as a political party! OK, two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: No, the prime minister is, and always has been in charge, hence why Davies left his post. I don't see anyone strongly implying all upsides. Free trade deal to continue with South Korea I see, maybe there will be some upsides...not the apocalypse predicted by Remainers. I thought these trade deals would take up to 10 years to sort? You run your own business? Really? Trade deal with EU, travel distance to furthest EU member 2,235 miles (Cyprus if you need help). Distance to South Korea 5,500. So you have to factor in a minimum of twice the distance to move goods, factor in over twice the time. I'll let you figure out how that makes it not an upside. Dyson has moved his business to Malaysia. Do you know why? Because Malaysia has a tariff free trade deal with the EU, after brexit, if it happens, the UK will not. He has done the maths and even with shipping costs, it is better for him to deal with the EU, rather than the UK post brexit. He wins either way. EU way bigger market than the UK, especially as he is moving into electric cars, and this lame duck country are miles behind mainland Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, maxjam said: I took an impractical headline and made a cheap joke about it at Labours expense. OK - I'll let you off then ? I did start my post with "I hope you're joking"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, maxjam said: So are UKIP, if you still count them as a political party! I think that aligning with wing nut robinson, and the complete collapse of the EU vote, has led them the way of any political party who associates themselves with a get rich quick conman, ie EDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, McRamFan said: You run your own business? Really? Yes. Trade deal with EU, travel distance to furthest EU member 2,235 miles (Cyprus if you need help). Distance to South Korea 5,500. So you have to factor in a minimum of twice the distance to move goods, factor in over twice the time. I'll let you figure out how that makes it not an upside. Dyson has moved his business to Malaysia. Do you know why? Because Malaysia has a tariff free trade deal with the EU, after brexit, if it happens, the UK will not. He has done the maths and even with shipping costs, it is better for him to deal with the EU, rather than the UK post brexit. He wins either way. EU way bigger market than the UK, especially as he is moving into electric cars, and this lame duck country are miles behind mainland Europe. I notice that you are choosing to ignore that the company said it has nothing to do with Brexit? I assume for balance you will provide a list of all companies that left the UK before Brexit and attribute this to being part of the EU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Self employed tradesman? Old article, but you can start there. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-companies-leaving-uk-list-job-cuts-eu-no-deal-customs-union-a8792296.html Perhaps you can get one of your employees (if you have them, if not a random stranger) to show you how too use a search engine, small tip, there are more than one, and most are way better and less filtered than 'the big one'. Unlike you, I use a myriad of resources, to back and substantiate the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, McRamFan said: Self employed tradesman? Old article, but you can start there. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-companies-leaving-uk-list-job-cuts-eu-no-deal-customs-union-a8792296.html Perhaps you can get one of your employees (if you have them, if not a random stranger) to show you how too use a search engine, small tip, there are more than one, and most are way better and less filtered than 'the big one'. Unlike you, I use a myriad of resources, to back and substantiate the facts. I won't have time to Google the list will be too busy looking up what the word myriad means. Being so thick, I thought it was a building in Egypt. Did any businesses ever leave the UK before the Referendum was announced? Oops sorry I'll get one of my slaves to show me on Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Did any businesses ever leave the UK before the Referendum was announced? No idea, but this is what is happening. https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-damaged-city-of-london-2018-11?r=US&IR=T Feel free to shut your eyes, put your fingers in your ears and shout 'nononnononononono'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, McRamFan said: No idea, but this is what is happening. https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-damaged-city-of-london-2018-11?r=US&IR=T Feel free to shut your eyes, put your fingers in your ears and shout 'nononnononononono'. You have no idea whether our manufacturing industries had been depleted prior to the Brexit vote? And all of this while we were a member of the EU. Feel free to pretend this didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: You have no idea whether our manufacturing industries had been depleted prior to the Brexit vote? And all of this while we were a member of the EU. Feel free to pretend this didn't happen. Yes I do, you just have a poor memory. It wasn't being a member of the EU that depleted our manufacturing. Carry on with your denial mode, makes me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Boris wants tax cuts for his mates, shock horror. And conveniently raising the limit to 80k a year (MP's earn £79k a year). Paying for it from the no-deal "savings". With Boris looking the favourite to become PM, I'm not delighted with how the two main parties would inevitably be a battle of Socialism vs Capitalism. Neither of these ideologies work on their own. There needs to be a blend of both. The perfect opportunity for a centralist party to grow in popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, McRamFan said: Yes I do, you just have a poor memory. It wasn't being a member of the EU that depleted our manufacturing. Carry on with your denial mode, makes me chuckle. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, SouthStandDan said: Boris wants tax cuts for his mates, shock horror. And conveniently raising the limit to 80k a year (MP's earn £79k a year). Paying for it from the no-deal "savings". With Boris looking the favourite to become PM, I'm not delighted with how the two main parties would inevitably be a battle of Socialism vs Capitalism. Neither of these ideologies work on their own. There needs to be a blend of both. The perfect opportunity for a centralist party to grow in popularity. It's quite clever really, but somewhat blatant. The broad demographic of the people who will actually choose the next Prime Minister just happens to include an awful lot of rich pensioners, so Boris is saying "Vote for me, and I promise to pay you for those votes". What they fail to realise, of course, is a Boris Promise (TM) is worth precisely diddly squat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: You have no idea whether our manufacturing industries had been depleted prior to the Brexit vote? And all of this while we were a member of the EU. Feel free to pretend this didn't happen. Manufacturing job losses were rife in the UK prior to Brexit . You are correct . Biggest manufacturing job losses by region, 2008-2015 North West: : 54200 South East: 52300Scotland: 36700South West: 28700North East: 26900West Midlands: 26200East: 25900East Midlands: 21500Yorkshire and the Humber: 19100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Manufacturing job losses were rife in the UK prior to Brexit . You are correct . Biggest manufacturing job losses by region, 2008-2015 North West: : 54200 South East: 52300Scotland: 36700South West: 28700North East: 26900West Midlands: 26200East: 25900East Midlands: 21500Yorkshire and the Humber: 19100 All of this despite the amazing trade deals the EU put in place for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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