Big Trav Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just a thought after the Preston game. When we switched to 3 centre backs we looked a whole lot safer at the back but also then we actually created more opportunities. Could frank start switching to this formation especially with efe ambrose looking to join. We would have the perfect blend at centre half. Tomori for pure pace and mopping up. Efe ambrose marks the big man and keogh just does keogh things. This would allow Scott and Jayden to get forward and stop us being countered so often. Have Andy king or hudds or Evans sit and allow mount to attack with waggy Marriott and duane up top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smyth_18 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 It isn't Derby unless we change to 3 at the back in February and go tits up regardless of the formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, Smyth_18 said: It isn't Derby unless we change to 3 at the back in February and go tits up regardless of the formation. Switching to 3 at the back last season saw the turn around in form. Not suggesting we do that now having just signed a left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDerby Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, David said: Switching to 3 at the back last season saw the turn around in form. Not suggesting we do that now having just signed a left back. I think this formation would suit Ashley Cole and definitely Malone. Most certainly Bogle on the other side, to say our right and left backs have been our weaknesses defensively this season, I think it makes a lot of sense. My back 3 would be Wisdom Keogh and Tomori Letting our full backs doing what they are good at... attacking, lets face it, Bogle and Malone can't defend to save their life. Presuming Cole has still 'got it'. I'd like to see him given the freedom on the left hand side, he's going to be good on the ball and make clever runs, let's just hope he's still got half the engine he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, JoeDerby said: I think this formation would suit Ashley Cole and definitely Malone. Most certainly Bogle on the other side, to say our right and left backs have been our weaknesses defensively this season, I think it makes a lot of sense. My back 3 would be Wisdom Keogh and Tomori Letting our full backs doing what they are good at... attacking, lets face it, Bogle and Malone can't defend to save their life. Presuming Cole has still 'got it'. I'd like to see him given the freedom on the left hand side, he's going to be good on the ball and make clever runs, let's just hope he's still got half the engine he had. At 38 it’s a big ask to have him covering the left side as a wing back, be interesting to see what role he has to play in this team, will he rotate with Malone, or will he simply be back up, in which case I can see an argument for switching to 3 at the back as Malone can cover the ground. Just wouldn’t like us switching systems week in week out, not sure there’s a problem with the system either to be honest, just need a full squad of fully fit players to choose from which Frank hasn’t had for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edtheram Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I've got to say i dont mind 433 but i dont think it is the always the answer in a game, Marriott for sure looks a lonely figure at times, The further forward we play Mount and Wilson the better we will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, David said: Switching to 3 at the back last season saw the turn around in form. Not suggesting we do that now having just signed a left back. The problem was we went full rowett and went 5 at the back not 3 ?. We know it’s 5 at the back without the ball but 3 at the back sounds so much better than 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I think 3 at the back would work well with our players. Firstly, our full backs are better going forward rather than defending. Secondly, our wide men are not out and out wingers and would prefer to play more inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I need to ask this because we’ve gone from having no backup for Keogh and Tomori with Wisdom being overlooked as a possible needs must solution, to possibly signing Ambrose and calling for 3 at the back. Assuming Ambrose plays, are we not in the same no backup situation? And when I say we I’m generalising from the majority of comments I’ve seen over the past month with regards to centre back situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDerby Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, David said: At 38 it’s a big ask to have him covering the left side as a wing back, be interesting to see what role he has to play in this team, will he rotate with Malone, or will he simply be back up, in which case I can see an argument for switching to 3 at the back as Malone can cover the ground. Just wouldn’t like us switching systems week in week out, not sure there’s a problem with the system either to be honest, just need a full squad of fully fit players to choose from which Frank hasn’t had for a while now. He did play as a wing back for LA Galaxy, they play 3 at the back so I'm presuming he is still capable! Looking forward to seeing him in action. The bonus of being able to play a few systems is that it's unpredictable and is a good plan B to have. I'm all for being comfortable in 2 systems and switching it, when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDerby Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, David said: I need to ask this because we’ve gone from having no backup for Keogh and Tomori with Wisdom being overlooked as a possible needs must solution, to possibly signing Ambrose and calling for 3 at the back. Assuming Ambrose plays, are we not in the same no backup situation? And when I say we I’m generalising from the majority of comments I’ve seen over the past month with regards to centre back situation. Absolutely agree with this. I think it would be a nice option to have BUT we are short in the CB position so it would be naive to play 3 when we currently have 2 CB on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 You do realise that this thread has negated the need for any more spying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Roos/Carson Wisdom/Ambrose Keogh Tamori Bogle/Holmes Evans/hudds Malone/Cole Wilson Lawrence mount Marriott Like the look of this tbh. either side of Keogh covering the full backs position if they are up the pitch with hudds or evans dropping back into the cb to help keogh when not in possession. this could give us an attacking force of 6 players whilst still keeping the back 4 in tact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDerby Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: Roos/Carson Wisdom/Ambrose Keogh Tamori Bogle/Holmes Evans/hudds Malone/Cole Wilson Lawrence mount Marriott Like the look of this tbh. either side of Keogh covering the full backs position if they are up the pitch with hudds or evans dropping back into the cb to help keogh when not in possession. this could give us an attacking force of 6 players whilst still keeping the back 4 in tact. That looks beautiful, I'd maybe swap Lawrence with King, I think we would struggle with only one true CM (hudds or evans) on the field and King would add a little more defensively. If we are playing Wilson in the middle, I think we need a box to box player in there with him. I think we will see Mount play his best football when he's given the absolute freedom to roam. I'd like to see this given a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1976 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 3-4-3 Roos Keogh Huddlestone Tomori Bogle Holmes Mount Malone/Cole Wilson Waghorn Marriott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: Roos/Carson Wisdom/Ambrose Keogh Tamori Bogle/Holmes Evans/hudds Malone/Cole Wilson Lawrence mount Marriott Like the look of this tbh. either side of Keogh covering the full backs position if they are up the pitch with hudds or evans dropping back into the cb to help keogh when not in possession. this could give us an attacking force of 6 players whilst still keeping the back 4 in tact. Too light in midfield for me. And Mount is out anyway for a few weeks, soooo.... Roos/Carson Wisdom/Ambrose Keogh Tamori Bogle/Holmes Hudds King/Evans Malone/Cole Wilson Marriott Waghorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDerby Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: Too light in midfield for me. And Mount is out anyway for a few weeks, soooo.... Roos/Carson Wisdom/Ambrose Keogh Tamori Bogle/Holmes Hudds King/Evans Malone/Cole Wilson Marriott Waghorn Marriott and Waghorn together upfront could be exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Smyth_18 said: It isn't Derby unless we change to 3 at the back in February and go tits up regardless of the formation. I say we play Keogh as a holding midfielder and try Malone at centre back. Totally get our tits out for the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: Roos/Carson Wisdom/Ambrose Keogh Tamori Bogle/Holmes Evans/hudds Malone/Cole Wilson Lawrence mount Marriott Like the look of this tbh. either side of Keogh covering the full backs position if they are up the pitch with hudds or evans dropping back into the cb to help keogh when not in possession. this could give us an attacking force of 6 players whilst still keeping the back 4 in tact. 16 out on the pitch might just be the answer. I am all for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Smyth_18 said: It isn't Derby unless we change to 3 at the back in February and go tits up regardless of the formation. yeah but one of three isn't Albentossa - complete disaster.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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