Srg Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Bob Gnarly said: Since when were wingers the primary source of scoring goals? Surely beating their man and getting the ball into good areas is more of a priority? Particularly in a Pulis side. Not speaking in this case in particular, but look across the footballing landscape, there's not that many out and out strikers that are the primary source of goals in their teams... Kane, Aguero (But let's face it, they have goals everywhere)... not many more about. Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe etc etc all take wider positions more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh n Bake Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Srg said: Not speaking in this case in particular, but look across the footballing landscape, there's not that many out and out strikers that are the primary source of goals in their teams... Kane, Aguero (But let's face it, they have goals everywhere)... not many more about. Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe etc etc all take wider positions more often than not. I think you've found the minority of wingers who score goals and tried to label them as a majority. If we played a game of naming players who scored the most amount of goals in their team in all leagues across the world, I'd win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, Bob Gnarly said: Since when were wingers the primary source of scoring goals? Liverpool won the Champions League (and nearly won the league) on this basis, didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Liverpool won the Champions League (and nearly won the league) on this basis, didn't they? That whole one team? With two exceptional wingers to be fair. Maybe I should have narrowed this to more suit my agenda... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Liverpool won the Champions League (and nearly won the league) on this basis, didn't they? And while Aguero was their individual top scorer, Man City registered the majority of their goals from their wingers. I bet that trend continues around, to be honest. Most teams play with more wingers nowadays than strikers so the odds are in favour! Whether or not its important for a winger to be scoring/assisting is dependant on whether they're playing as a forward (like Wilson did for most of his time with us) and the Liverpool wingers do, or as a midfielder. For the latter, their influence on the transitional play is more important than individual end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCG Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 37 minutes ago, Bob Gnarly said: That whole one team? With two exceptional wingers to be fair. Maybe I should have narrowed this to more suit my agenda... I think we need to define what a winger actually is. Someone playing in a wide position is not necessarily a winger. The old definition was a player who went around the defender and put a cross in. I would argue the Liverpool players referred to are strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, KCG said: I think we need to define what a winger actually is. Someone playing in a wide position is not necessarily a winger. The old definition was a player who went around the defender and put a cross in. I would argue the Liverpool players referred to are strikers. Agree with this. I would say Traore is a winger as opposed to a striker in a wide position, hence the goal contribution tally that he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 George Puscas looks the real deal against England U21. He's currently plying his trade for Palermo in the second division in Italy. He's caught my eye - well him and Tomori. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Ambitious said: George Puscas looks the real deal against England U21. He's currently plying his trade for Palermo in the second division in Italy. He's caught my eye - well him and Tomori. Yes it is a bit peculiar he has dropped into Serie B as he has full caps as well. Maybe it's the Palermo connection, play for our club or sleep with the fishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser_23 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just seen Newcastle centre back Lascelles at Derby train station. Think he’s from Derby so could be nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Fraser_23 said: Just seen Newcastle centre back Lascelles at Derby train station. Think he’s from Derby so could be nothing Or the train from Newcastle goes through Derby! - he could also be getting another train to shottingham where he played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser_23 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Sparkle said: Or the train from Newcastle goes through Derby! - he could also be getting another train to shottingham where he played Nah he was at Derby and went to Sheffield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 All this uncertainty means we are in for a busy July...I hope Frank/whoever or manager is gets another couple of exciting loan players in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 If he doesn't make it as the next PM. how about this fella as a midfield enforcer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Fraser_23 said: Just seen Newcastle centre back Lascelles at Derby train station. Think he’s from Derby so could be nothing He's from Derby - whole family live this way. I don't know too much about him, but I know that his family have big community ties - I think his dad was the Derby Trailblazers head coach at one point. I'm sure I've read that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Ambitious said: He's from Derby - whole family live this way. I don't know too much about him, but I know that his family have big community ties - I think his dad was the Derby Trailblazers head coach at one point. I'm sure I've read that before. His dad Tim played for Derby Storm back in the nineties, I hung around with the son of the then coach of Derby Storm, Terry Manglum and we washed Tim's car once, Jamaal wasn't even born then. His family lived in Oakwood on Fiskerton Way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser_23 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Ambitious said: He's from Derby - whole family live this way. I don't know too much about him, but I know that his family have big community ties - I think his dad was the Derby Trailblazers head coach at one point. I'm sure I've read that before. Yeah probs is. Was with some mates so I assume he’s come back for that. Only stirring about signing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Isn't he another of those forest lads who they rinse a club for a big fee on the back of 1 decent season and then they sink without trace? On the basis that they aren't really all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 hours ago, HantsRam said: Isn't he another of those forest lads who they rinse a club for a big fee on the back of 1 decent season and then they sink without trace? On the basis that they aren't really all that. At the start of the year he was linked with Chelsea, Liverpool and arsenal and has recently been linked with Lazio and Napoli. He either has a fantastic agent or is half decent. (He is actually a decent player, small issues with concentration and decision making, but he could be a top player in a year or two) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 5 hours ago, HantsRam said: Isn't he another of those forest lads who they rinse a club for a big fee on the back of 1 decent season and then they sink without trace? On the basis that they aren't really all that. He's captain of Newcastle, so he's definitely done better than expected. He is a good player and unlucky not to get an England call up by all accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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