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2 hours ago, RamNut said:

So, amongst other things...

The pilot's licence does not cover taking passengers for reward.

Passenger(s) can, however, be carried under "cost sharing" restrictions. 

And...

"The FAA issued legal interpretations in 200917 and 201418 making clear that a pilot must not pay less than the pro rata share for the flight. If the flight involves the pilot and one passenger, then the pilot must pay half the operating expenses. The ruling also made clear that the pilot must have a bona fide purpose (also known as common purpose) for making the flight and must dictate when the flight is to go. The flight must not be made for the purpose of merely transporting the passenger".

 

... "The investigation continues to examine all pertinent operational, technical, organisational and human factors which might have contributed to the accident. In particular, work will be undertaken to:

a. Refine the analysis of the radar information to try and understand the last few minutes of the flight.

b. Assess the possible implications of the weather conditions in the area at the time of the accident.

c. Analyse video from the ROV to determine the aircraft attitude as it entered the water.

d. Consider the regulatory requirements surrounding the flight including airworthiness requirements, aircraft permissions and flight crew licencing.

A final report will be published in due course."

 

I'm saying nothing!

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I'm saying nothing

I could have sworn you were going to say something.

 

Any road...who have guessed that the planes owners were from Derbyshire!

A management consultancy company called Cool Flourish Ltd with a registered address on The Dale, Bonsall, derbyshire, with two directors, one who lives in Repton, and the other in Higham.

small world.

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1 hour ago, RamNut said:

I could have sworn you were going to say something.

 

Any road...who have guessed that the planes owners were from Derbyshire!

A management consultancy company called Cool Flourish Ltd with a registered address on The Dale, Bonsall, derbyshire, with two directors, one who lives in Repton, and the other in Higham.

small world.

Alas, if it were indeed a small world, there would’ve been no need for the plane. 

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5 hours ago, Barnetbyram said:

It seems not the case now money is being asked for 

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Maybe they could all put those H&H scarves on EBay, and "donate" the monies to Nantes, as a goodwill gesture!

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On 26/02/2019 at 09:55, Mucker1884 said:

So, amongst other things...

The pilot's licence does not cover taking passengers for reward.

Passenger(s) can, however, be carried under "cost sharing" restrictions. 

And...

"The FAA issued legal interpretations in 200917 and 201418 making clear that a pilot must not pay less than the pro rata share for the flight. If the flight involves the pilot and one passenger, then the pilot must pay half the operating expenses. The ruling also made clear that the pilot must have a bona fide purpose (also known as common purpose) for making the flight and must dictate when the flight is to go. The flight must not be made for the purpose of merely transporting the passenger".

 

... "The investigation continues to examine all pertinent operational, technical, organisational and human factors which might have contributed to the accident. In particular, work will be undertaken to:

a. Refine the analysis of the radar information to try and understand the last few minutes of the flight.

b. Assess the possible implications of the weather conditions in the area at the time of the accident.

c. Analyse video from the ROV to determine the aircraft attitude as it entered the water.

d. Consider the regulatory requirements surrounding the flight including airworthiness requirements, aircraft permissions and flight crew licencing.

A final report will be published in due course."

 

I'm saying nothing!

I haven't read all of this post and I might be barking up the wrong tree.

But I am pretty sure the rules governing this flight would come under the CAA/FCAA not the FAA (Like I said I might be wrong and I am sure the rules are similar) FAA governs the USA and also covers several other countries.

UK - CAA

France - FCAA

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5 minutes ago, BathRam72 said:

I haven't read all of this post and I might be barking up the wrong tree.

But I am pretty sure the rules governing this flight would come under the CAA/FCAA not the FAA (Like I said I might be wrong and I am sure the rules are similar) FAA governs the USA and also covers several other countries.

UK - CAA

France - FCAA

Can't remember, as what I read has now left my brain again!

I recall something about state of ownership/state of registration, blah, blah, option to throw it over to someone else etc (as to who carries out the investigation, and under which governing bodies).  It's all in the first few paragraphs of the linked report.

What I can say though, is that all the wording in italics (in my post) was taken from the linked pdf (posted by @RamNut, top of this page), which appears to be the official report from official investigators... thus far!

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6 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said:

Can't remember, as what I read has now left my brain again!

I recall something about state of ownership/state of registration, blah, blah, option to throw it over to someone else etc (as to who carries out the investigation, and under which governing bodies).  It's all in the first few paragraphs of the linked report.

What I can say though, is that all the wording in italics (in my post) was taken from the linked pdf (posted by @RamNut, top of this page), which appears to be the official report from official investigators... thus far!

I don't disagree with any of it, just surprised and as I said I stand to be corrected.

The rules governing aircraft and civil aviation would be fairly similar throughout the world (I guess anyway)

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So Cardiff are claiming that Sala was never a Bluebird after all? I can't wait for all those virtue signalling Cardiff fans to demand their club honour the contract of a player they all genuinely took into their hearts. There's no way they'd all be so duplicitous and brazenly hypocritical that they'd now be framing denying their hero's family his cut of the transfer fee as a sensible business decision.

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3 hours ago, Anon said:

So Cardiff are claiming that Sala was never a Bluebird after all? I can't wait for all those virtue signalling Cardiff fans to demand their club honour the contract of a player they all genuinely took into their hearts. There's no way they'd all be so duplicitous and brazenly hypocritical that they'd now be framing denying their hero's family his cut of the transfer fee as a sensible business decision.

They might want to hide all those t-shirts saying ‘always a bluebird’, and maybe delete all the footage of the thousands of fans wearing them. 

I wonder if we could claim that the deal we struck for Nick Blackman is null and void. 

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