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10 minutes ago, richinspain said:

Would Cardiff have gone down this route if there hadn't been this terrible accident? Whether or not they are legally obliged to pay is a case for others to decide, but surely the amount is the amount that was agreed between the two clubs? Perhaps we can claim a refund on part of the BJ and Butterfield transfers 🤔

Exactly we paid over the odds for both because the agents and clubs involved knew we were desperate.

We were happy to pay the only people we can blame our ourselves, likewise Cardiff..for the amount paid.

I think the only avenue Cardiff have is deciding if there was any negligence with the form of transport.

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18 minutes ago, richinspain said:

Would Cardiff have gone down this route if there hadn't been this terrible accident? Whether or not they are legally obliged to pay is a case for others to decide, but surely the amount is the amount that was agreed between the two clubs? Perhaps we can claim a refund on part of the BJ and Butterfield transfers 🤔?

I was always told a deals a deal,if you’ve agreed it you honour it.

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2 hours ago, Paul71 said:

If true then maybe a bit underhand by the agent, but its obviously a common practice. You agree the price, you pay it.

Had the 'inflated' price been too much then you walk away. You pay what you think the player is worth surely.

Maybe all of  the players Cardiff have sold should be looked into to to see if the Agent has embellished the truth to get a better deal.

Its really difficult. I can understand, when sentiment is taken out of it, Cardiff doing what they can to avoid payment, surely most clubs would but sadly someone is going to lose out financially here.

the agent was acting on behalf of Nantes to get the best deal. The emails to Sala also reveal that he didn't really want to go to cardiff. He wanted a move to a better premier league club. The agent explained that there wasn't any other interest, and any disappointment he felt was their fault as they leaked the fictitious stories about everton and west ham to 'generate interest'. But they re-assured him that he would get a better move in the future, and that Warnock liked him because he was a typical English centre forward. Thats standard.

the agents were simply trying to help him, and offered to organise a flight with a third party that they had obviously used many times before.

I think the problems began with regards to the time of the flight. Mckays son asked sala what time he wanted to fly back and he said  9pm. They came back to him and asked if he could make it earlier as the pilot had to fly on to the north of england. I suspect that the time of the flight was the reason for the possible change of pilot. Even after that there may have been confusion over the time of the flight, as it was reported that the pilot was up early in readiness for a 7.30 am flight back, not the 7.30pm flight that sala had agreed. He then had to wait around all day. 

another strange aspect was the agents comment that sala's mother could receive ÂŁ1m. Not sure how that could come about but this is the murky world of football transfers. I thought that all payments to agents etc had to be declared as part of the transfer form. Where the ÂŁ1m cut comes from is obscure.

Sadly accidents such as this come about due to a combination of circumstances and errors. One of those errors was presumably the time of the flight and another was the choice of pilot. Incidentally when sala asked what the cost would be, he was told 'nothing'. He might have thought it was a freebie from a grateful agent but we now know that the reason that there is no charge is because the private pilot was not licensed to carry paying customers. Therefore it seems as though from the outset, that the pilot was never going to be a commercially qualified pilot. Again maybe that is normal but I think i would want to know that if i was sala. there was no reason for any secrecy. Probably just too many third parties involved. 

Cardiff may blame the agent for negligence in the flight arrangements, and may therefore be unwilling to pay that bit of the transfer that equates to his fee. Similarly they might blame Nantes for arranging sala's return for a series of goodbye events. But it would be shocking to attempt to renegotiate the agreed fee now on the basis that they had been misled.

This suggests that they have no intention of paying the agreed fee.

 

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