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Charlie Dram

Are our loan players really all that?

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39 minutes ago, Charlie Dram said:

Not really rating any of the 3 loans tbh. Theres the odd wonderstrike from Harry but barring that I'm far from convinced. 

Don't see any of them having a career at their parent club. Can't do it at Championship level, what makes folks think they're capable at Top 6 Prem?. 

Young lads I know. Just don't see it.

Big no no from me. 

My take ..

Tomori - physical and pacey.. not a bad player but terrible in the air and positionally bad. Won't ever play for Chelsea in the prem unless he can improve those things. Champ at best/ lower prem

Mount - Looked the part at the start of the season, think he's got a lot of talent for his age. Has got the potential to dictate a game from midfield and score goals. For some reason he hasn't been getting involved as much going forward. Looks to have taken a whack in form and confidence. Not convinced he will play at the very top level but will likely have a great career in the prem. Haven't even noticed him in quite a few games recently.

Wilson - Brilliant left foot and strike, set piece specialist. Has got a lot of end product but some of his play inbetween isn't great, defensively weak and lightweight. Not sure if he will ever play for Liverpool but again will have a good career playing prem and international football. Not sure his best position.

 

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Yeah mason Mount is poo! So poo he he’ll never play in the premier league and he’ll never get called up to the England squad......oh wait a minute.

Wilson - only double figures half way through the season 

Tomori - the weakest of the three - has talent and will be a good player but also has issues with positioning (will come with time) but also isn’t good in the air and that might be his Achilles heel.

Are the Loan players all that.....yes they are!

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Without them we'd be fooked. I dread what this side could look like in the summer without them and not a pot to piss in. 

A side full of academy lads thrown in at the deep end  by the sound of it or Bryson getting another 5 years 

Edited by Papahet

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They're really good technical footballers all of them. I'm having doubts over Mount's place in the team though. He drifts in and out of the game far too much to be a central midfielder, when we need him most to show for the ball and put a tackle in, he goes missing. 

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9 hours ago, LB_DCFC said:

It's interesting how different people see it differently. The one thing I think mount will always give you is effort and pressing and is the one that i'd say has the has the talent to go the furthest, and has shown it for us, hasn't shown for a while, but i'd think this is more of a dip than what is the norm for him

But you don’t always see that on the TV 👍

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They are clearly talented players, but something isn't right at the moment.

Mount has had a drop in form, but so did Hughes, who is now performing consistently in Premiership. I think we all have rose-tinted rear view glasses. 

Wilson is a very attack minded player, but I'm not sure he gives us much in recycling the ball.

Our midfield feels lightweight on paper,  yet when it all clicks, it works. The early season high press, recovering the ball and moving it quickly relied on players giving options, and that's the bit that seems to be missing right now.

Tomori looks a good footballer, but continually loses his man in the danger areas. His interceptions, pace, and passing ability feel more like fullback to me.

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Mount is supposed to support Marriott but that leaves the other two midfielders to control two thirds of the pitch. Which they don't. 

Until they do then Mount will continue to have quiet games. He and we might have more joy if he played deeper but that doesn't seem Lampard's plan. 

Marriott is having similar issues too but he does manage to feed off scraps when the ball is punted past them both. 

The service to the pair of them has got poor. 

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So we are now slagging off the 3 YOUNG players, who have basically carried our team into the top 6 along with Marriott’s goals. 

They are here to gain experience for their parent clubs,  and should complement the team we have, expecting them to have to carry our team is exactly the problem. It’s the players around them that aren’t good enough. How good are you expecting Mount or Wilson to be if you never get the ball to them in good positions in the final third? What do you want them to do? Come and get the ball off of the centre backs and play from there? That’s what Hudds/evans/Bryson are supposed to be doing, but aren’t.

Who thought Jesse Lingard would be in the England team at the next World Cup when he was here? I doubt anyone.

 

 

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I was initial disappointed with Wilson but he’s really adapted well and looks like he’s going to be some player. Mount really looks like a kid in a mans game at the moment being brushed off the ball , the odd touch of skill , but not anything too get excited about , still prefer Will Hughes on song to him . Tomori at the moment is the one  I’m most disappointed about , for a big lad wins very little in the air , tends switch off at vital times and certainly could do with a rest, this all after a very promising start.

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11 hours ago, northantsram said:

My take ..

Tomori - physical and pacey.. not a bad player but terrible in the air and positionally bad. Won't ever play for Chelsea in the prem unless he can improve those things. Champ at best/ lower prem

Mount - Looked the part at the start of the season, think he's got a lot of talent for his age. Has got the potential to dictate a game from midfield and score goals. For some reason he hasn't been getting involved as much going forward. Looks to have taken a whack in form and confidence. Not convinced he will play at the very top level but will likely have a great career in the prem. Haven't even noticed him in quite a few games recently.

Wilson - Brilliant left foot and strike, set piece specialist. Has got a lot of end product but some of his play inbetween isn't great, defensively weak and lightweight. Not sure if he will ever play for Liverpool but again will have a good career playing prem and international football. Not sure his best position.

 

Absolutely bang on mate 

For me tomori is looking more and more like Claude Davis with every week that passes quite honestly 

phycially strong etc etc but switches off, can’t read situation and is reactive not proactive in his defending 

and at the moment he’s reacting about 5 minutes after the balls in the back of our net 

I’d genuinely rather see wisdom at centre back and that hardly enthuses or inspires me either but I think tomori is that bad quite honestly 

Edited by NottsRam77

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12 hours ago, Charlie Dram said:

Not really rating any of the 3 loans tbh. Theres the odd wonderstrike from Harry but barring that I'm far from convinced. 

Don't see any of them having a career at their parent club. Can't do it at Championship level, what makes folks think they're capable at Top 6 Prem?. 

Young lads I know. Just don't see it.

Big no no from me. 

Is this satire?

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10 hours ago, Papahet said:

 

Without them we'd be fooked. I dread what this side could look like in the summer without them and not a pot to piss in. 

 

This is what worries me, and I'm starting to think we're wasting this season building the team around them. 

They're shoring us up, but is that actually preventing us from developing the players and style to take us forward beyond the summer, when they're gone?

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