DarkFruitsRam7 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 hours ago, cheron85 said: Rowett pretty much publicly shamed him Did I miss this? Don't remember it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Smyth_18 said: McGrath played for Derby in the mid 90's, fitness wasn't a key aspect of the game back then (More alcohol was probably consumed than water by the top pro's). I'd say Thorne was as good as Mcgrath and had the potential to be an England player. I can remember when there was talk of Barker nearing his return. I was absolutely buzzing and thought with him back in the team we'd be nailed on promoted. That was very naive of me. He was fit, yes. But his legs didn't work. Agreed about Thorne's potential I still think a quick brain, control and vision is a match for quick feet and running at times as a DM though - Huddlestone doesn't have quick reaction times but half the time he looks 3 moves ahead of other players 2 hours ago, BurtonRam7 said: Did I miss this? Don't remember it happening. He battered the players post match (fairly) and dropped Fozzy, Johnson and Thorne - Fozzy and Johnson brought back in a few matches later - Thorne never gets another game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Paul71 said: I was hoping he would shine at Luton but he isnt going to get a chance by the look of it. Was hoping Frank would see what he could do and bring him back from the cold. I am gutted, im sure there is a good footballer there, hope he gets a chance somewhere. There was a proper premier league class midfielder there as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately his body doesn't seem to be up to the demands of professional football. And successive injuries can damage a player permanently. It's a shame, he was a lovely footballer to watch and I don't think he'll ever have the career now that his talent deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoooMarkWright Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Smyth_18 said: McGrath played for Derby in the mid 90's, fitness wasn't a key aspect of the game back then (More alcohol was probably consumed than water by the top pro's). I'd say Thorne was as good as Mcgrath and had the potential to be an England player. I can remember when there was talk of Barker nearing his return. I was absolutely buzzing and thought with him back in the team we'd be nailed on promoted. That was very naive of me. He was fit, yes. But his legs didn't work. Thorne was never in the same league as McGrath. What a centre half! Even though he only played for Derby for 3/4 of a season he is still one of the best centre halves I've seen in my 30 years of watching Derby. Gutted for Thorne, fantastic whilst on loan. Pretty good when played under Clement/Wassall but he's never recaptured that form in 13/14 and never will. I think we need to move on unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Key Club King Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Smyth_18 said: McGrath played for Derby in the mid 90's, fitness wasn't a key aspect of the game back then (More alcohol was probably consumed than water by the top pro's). I'd say Thorne was as good as Mcgrath and had the potential to be an England player. I can remember when there was talk of Barker nearing his return. I was absolutely buzzing and thought with him back in the team we'd be nailed on promoted. That was very naive of me. He was fit, yes. But his legs didn't work. It helped that McGrath was a centre-half where knowledge, reading of the game, and positioning are more important than mobility. Thorne certainly had (has?) potential but in the games he played for us was not close to McGrath. And that is by no means an insult. I don't expect to see him in a first team shirt at Derby again I'm afraid. I sincerely hope I am wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Well he has not really played best part of 2 years and to get fitness back takes time if he can get a full pre season in I think he will be part of this team next season. Even with my complex pain srydrom I am only starting to get through this I am hoping get back training in my tetsudo I think like same for geouge thorn. Only thing that has kepted me going is derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The sad thing about this whole saga is that a player turns up and is an instant hit. Plays really good football and a great acquisition. The future looks bright. We all take him to our hearts and he gets injured. A serious injury at that. An injury that some do not come back from, some of those who do will not find the same form. Get another injury of the same type and most will never come back let alone at the level they once were. Poor George has had his injuries in abundance and is trying to deal with coming back. Expectations are high "George is back in training" all will be good. He not only has to get his fitness back, he has to deal with the psychological pressures of expectation and no matter how he tries to put it out of his mind, another potential injury must have an affect on his mental state. He has to deal with all this. He is not for what ever reasons figuring in our teams this year so sending him out on loan was probably a good decision, to build fitness, confidence away from the limelight and expectation of his adoring fans. I now believe that Luton was probably not ideal due the the very fact they are winning constantly and in a great position. He is not getting that time to heal. I think we all need to realise and manage our expectations and realise that George may never find that spark again at this level, however if he does then bring it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: The sad thing about this whole saga is that a player turns up and is an instant hit. Plays really good football and a great acquisition. The future looks bright. We all take him to our hearts and he gets injured. A serious injury at that. An injury that some do not come back from, some of those who do will not find the same form. Get another injury of the same type and most will never come back let alone at the level they once were. Poor George has had his injuries in abundance and is trying to deal with coming back. Expectations are high "George is back in training" all will be good. He not only has to get his fitness back, he has to deal with the psychological pressures of expectation and no matter how he tries to put it out of his mind, another potential injury must have an affect on his mental state. He has to deal with all this. He is not for what ever reasons figuring in our teams this year so sending him out on loan was probably a good decision, to build fitness, confidence away from the limelight and expectation of his adoring fans. I now believe that Luton was probably not ideal due the the very fact they are winning constantly and in a great position. He is not getting that time to heal. I think we all need to realise and manage our expectations and realise that George may never find that spark again at this level, however if he does then bring it on. Sad, but true ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCAR Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said: Sad, but true ? Metallica fan..? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poynton ram Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Will never forget his goal at Huddersfield, was right behind it when he hit it. Will be remembered fondly whatever happens to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I just posted on the update thread. I am told that Lutons regular DM is getting on a bit and may be rested next time out so George might get a start … fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 hours ago, REDCAR said: Metallica fan..? ? Absolutely, how did you guess ??♂️?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 A bit worried about George, he has everything and has been excellent but his career seems to be on the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Such a reckless challenge. Seriously how hard did he hit George? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 He only made his debut for us at this point of the season 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 19 hours ago, jono said: I just posted on the update thread. I am told that Lutons regular DM is getting on a bit and may be rested next time out so George might get a start … fingers crossed. On the bench. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSox Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 hours ago, angieram said: On the bench. ? And unused. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 hours ago, angieram said: On the bench. ? 3-0 up with 10 minutes to play and even then he doesn't get any game time. No good for us, no real benefit to Luton him being there and definitely a waste of George's time in trying to rehabilitate himself. Nothing seems to be going right for the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 19 hours ago, Paul71 said: Such a reckless challenge. Seriously how hard did he hit George? In defence of the challenge...... Thorne was about 6 yards out and in a goal scoring opportunity, anyone would be throwing themselves in the way, look at Keogh..... Just unfortunate he broke his leg because of it. If I remember correctly their was no hard feeling between the players and it was accidental, which can’t be said from reaction of some of the fans at the time, but that’s to be expected obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Mafiabob said: In defence of the challenge...... Thorne was about 6 yards out and in a goal scoring opportunity, anyone would be throwing themselves in the way, look at Keogh..... Just unfortunate he broke his leg because of it. If I remember correctly their was no hard feeling between the players and it was accidental, which can’t be said from reaction of some of the fans at the time, but that’s to be expected obviously. I think thats the case with most tackles, unless you are Roy Keane of course. It was reckless still, but I do get your point. Dunno how it wasnt a red though or a penalty, but then again i recall feeling so sick for George the result didnt matter, i cant imagine i could have cheered a goal from a penalty. I felt worse than when Barker got injured, but thats maybe because it was right in front of me and Barker was the other end of the pitch. Time seemed to stand still while they were treating George on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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