FindernRam Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Was there ever a more miserable bunch than PHE and all the other public bodies that pretend they have our best interests at heart. It was fat then sugar, now calories. Alcohol taxes, sugary drink taxes, now a pudding tax. Some misery guts saying she can't pick up a glass of red wine without thinking of the harm it does to her. Why don't they stop pretending-what they really want to do is control us like some big brother state. Next they will give us ration cards so we all eat (in their eyes) healthily. I'm off for a Digestive Sandwich, slathered in butter, and then dunked in Scotch. That'll tell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just ignore. They are only effective if people take any notice. I’m still a fat bar steward despite the existence of PHE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 hours ago, FindernRam said: Why don't they stop pretending-what they really want to do is control us Or you could argue that its the super rich pharmaceuticals, who own all the food companies who want to control us by keeping us addicted to salt and sugar, which keeps us nice and ill and fully under their control. Maybe PHE are just trying to reduce the pressure on the NHS. Would we even need an NHS if we didn't eat sugar and salt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Parsnip said: Or you could argue that its the super rich pharmaceuticals, who own all the food companies who want to control us by keeping us addicted to salt and sugar, which keeps us nice and ill and fully under their control. Maybe PHE are just trying to reduce the pressure on the NHS. Would we even need an NHS if we didn't eat sugar and salt? Nowt wrong with salt, imagine walking into a chippy and only asking for vinegar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Parsnip said: Or you could argue that its the super rich pharmaceuticals, who own all the food companies who want to control us by keeping us addicted to salt and sugar, which keeps us nice and ill and fully under their control. Maybe PHE are just trying to reduce the pressure on the NHS. Would we even need an NHS if we didn't eat sugar and salt? Ever seen a thin person drinking sugar free Diet Coke ? Yes we eat too much sugar and salt, but I can’t help feeling it’s got just as much to do with additives as sugar. One thing for sure. Good Simple food is cheap, we need to take some personal responsibility instead of blaming someone else or making more rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, David said: Nowt wrong with salt, imagine walking into a chippy and only asking for vinegar? Or saying i'll have a donner and chips with everything but no salt please and can you add a bit of lettuce cause im on a detox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, David said: Nowt wrong with salt, imagine walking into a chippy and only asking for vinegar? Imagine if you'd never had salt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, David said: Nowt wrong with salt, imagine walking into a chippy and only asking for vinegar? I do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Parsnip said: Imagine if you'd never had salt? That’s not a life I would liked to have lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, jono said: Ever seen a thin person drinking sugar free Diet Coke ? Yes we eat too much sugar and salt, but I can’t help feeling it’s got just as much to do with additives as sugar. One thing for sure. Good Simple food is cheap, we need to take some personal responsibility instead of blaming someone else or making more rules Ah personal responsibility. Yep i agree. We all know whats good and not good for us, taxing me wont stop me having a treat if i want one, trying to be healthy is what will stop me. Crazy rules like no sweets at checkouts get me. Its like saying its the shops fault my screaming spoilt kid won't shut up unless i shovel chocolate down them. Eat less and more healthy, exercise more that will solve more health issues than extra taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: I do that Must admit i can happily eat food without extra salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Paul71 said: Ah personal responsibility. Pinging @Mafiabob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Paul71 said: Must admit i can happily eat food without extra salt. Except chips. Chips need salt, everything else, I’m happy leaving the salt out. Like a bit of pepper though. Is that unhealthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Cheers for the heads up @David ...... @jono absolutely on the button mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 6 hours ago, FindernRam said: Was there ever a more miserable bunch than PHE and all the other public bodies that pretend they have our best interests at heart. It was fat then sugar, now calories. Alcohol taxes, sugary drink taxes, now a pudding tax. Some misery guts saying she can't pick up a glass of red wine without thinking of the harm it does to her. Why don't they stop pretending-what they really want to do is control us like some big brother state. Next they will give us ration cards so we all eat (in their eyes) healthily. I'm off for a Digestive Sandwich, slathered in butter, and then dunked in Scotch. That'll tell them. Fair comment, can't you see though that people not taking personal responsibility for their own diet and health are placing an extra burden on the National Health Service which is already totally underfunded? Do you think it's right that a person who drinks a bottle of scotch a day should then have a liver transplant on the taxpayer or someone who eats junk food all day be given a gastric band operation for free? Have picked out 2 gross non specific generalisations there as am sure there are specific cases which are exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 hours ago, TigerTedd said: Except chips. Chips need salt, everything else, I’m happy leaving the salt out. Like a bit of pepper though. Is that unhealthy? Give them time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Behavioural economics will tell you this is unlikely to work, if the idea is to reduce consumption. Far more effective would be to subsidise /incentivise the right behaviours. An example from my field is vitality health insurance. They worked out that to persuade people to exercise more and hence reduce their risk of I'll health (And claims costs to them), they would offer a subsidised iwatch. They claim it's working well for their business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 12 hours ago, Inglorius said: Do you think it's right that a person who drinks a bottle of scotch a day should then have a liver transplant on the taxpayer or someone who eats junk food all day be given a gastric band operation for free? No I don't, but putting limits on the behaviour of 60 million people because of a few misguided souls is not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 40% of the NHS budget is spent on the over 65's, which is 18% of the population... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, McRamFan said: 40% of the NHS budget is spent on the over 65's, which is 18% of the population... They have nothing else to do and need someone to talk to. You can't blame @eddie for feeling lonely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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