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17 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Well he did say "big" not "rich"

Depends on how you determine big.

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United way behind on this count.

Happy to say they are the biggest, but not by miles as was implied.

 

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13 minutes ago, McRamFan said:

Depends on how you determine big.

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United way behind on this count.

Happy to say they are the biggest, but not by miles as was implied.

 

Total fans (not just those who use social media)

Man Utd - 650m

Barcelona - 450m

Real Madrid - 350m

 

https://travel.zeelo.co/the-top-15-biggest-and-most-supported-football-teams-in-the-world/

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9 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Total fans (not just those who use social media)

Man Utd - 650m

Barcelona - 450m

Real Madrid - 350m

 

https://travel.zeelo.co/the-top-15-biggest-and-most-supported-football-teams-in-the-world/

Those figures are estimated, and you are presenting them as fact.  The fans on social media are measurable, the figures you quote, from a start up company that states it helps football fans travel the world, and need as much exposure as possible, hence the article, are complete guess work.  Hence fake.

You measure by fixed tangible elements, such as money, attendance, social media exposure, not by estimation and guess work.

Like I said before ManU are the biggest, but not by a huge amount.  Give it 12/24 months they could well be 2nd or 3rd.

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5 minutes ago, McRamFan said:

Those figures are estimated, and you are presenting them as fact.  The fans on social media are measurable, the figures you quote, from a start up company that states it helps football fans travel the world, and need as much exposure as possible, hence the article, are complete guess work.  Hence fake.

You measure by fixed tangible elements, such as money, attendance, social media exposure, not by estimation and guess work.

Like I said before ManU are the biggest, but not by a huge amount.  Give it 12/24 months they could well be 2nd or 3rd.

How about this one then. Make that 659m for Man Utd, "twice the supporters of other global soccer brands like Barcelona, Real Madrid and Chelsea"

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2012/05/29/manchester-united-claims-to-have-659-million-supporters/#a6ca62563072 

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2 hours ago, McRamFan said:

Manchester United — €676.3 million (£581.2 million or $827.9 million).

Real Madrid — €674.6 million (£579.7 million or £825.9 million). ...

FC Barcelona — €648.3 million (£557.1 million or $793.2 million).

Pretty close, if you ask me, and this is taken this year.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-20-richest-football-clubs-in-the-world-2018-1?r=UK&IR=T

At least fact check before you make incorrect statements.

So the only criteria is wealth.....?....?....?

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49 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

How about this one then. Make that 659m for Man Utd, "twice the supporters of other global soccer brands like Barcelona, Real Madrid and Chelsea"

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2012/05/29/manchester-united-claims-to-have-659-million-supporters/#a6ca62563072 

Means nothing if they don't have as many fookbase friends....

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Man U were biggest at one time because they were the most aggressive in marketing in new and developing markets, but that was probably 15 years ago and there's been a lot of t of catching up since.
Still one of the biggest brands, deffo bigger than spurs, but harder to say against the Spanish giants, except in the Latin world where its a no contest and man u isn't.

 

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1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

How about this one then. Make that 659m for Man Utd, "twice the supporters of other global soccer brands like Barcelona, Real Madrid and Chelsea"

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2012/05/29/manchester-united-claims-to-have-659-million-supporters/#a6ca62563072 

Article is 6 years old and it is only claimimg it.

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Kantor, which performed a similar study five years ago, extrapolated its results from 54,000 respondents in 39 countries.

So fundamently it is guess work.

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19 hours ago, MuespachRam said:

Neither Madrid or Barca are as big as United, not even close.

They're only marginally more successful in financial terms and United are not even in the same league when it comes to matters on the pitch. 

19 hours ago, MuespachRam said:

Spurs have no money to spend

Levy has already told Poch he'll be able given funds to sign players this January. I'd say he'll be getting a few extra million now given the United overtures. 

19 hours ago, MuespachRam said:

United have unlimited funds

How's that been working out for them? Nobody has 'unlimited funds' anyway and saying as much is plain silly. That said, United have an average net spend of over £83 million per season over the last 5 seasons, while the equivalent figure for Spurs is less than £9 million. United's finishing positions in those years were 4th, 5th, 6th, 2nd and 5th. Spurs have finished 6th. 5th, 3rd, 2nd and 3rd. This season United are already 11 points off the CL slots with a goal difference of 0. Spurs by contrast, are 3rd, 13 points clear of United with a +15 goal average.

19 hours ago, MuespachRam said:

they do have what looks like a lovely stadium though.

... which will ultimately generate significantly higher revenues for the club, thereby increasing their spending power in the transfer market. The ground capacity at White Hart Lane was a mere 36,000 yet over 80,000 watched them play Liverpool in September. The new ground has a capacity of 62,000 and in terms of a stadium experience and the build itself, it will be one of the finest sporting & entertainment venues in the world. Expect a sharp increase in club revenues as a consequence. 

19 hours ago, MuespachRam said:

they won’t ever win the league or the champions league

As previously mentioned, they've finished 3rd, 2nd and 3rd in the last 3 seasons. Given more money to spend, why could they not improve sufficiently win the division? Your position makes no sense given 5,000 to 1 outsiders Leicester accomplished the feat you are saying is impossible for Spurs and a total of 6 different clubs have topped the Premiership since its inception. At the start of the season everyone had already awarded City the league and yet Liverpool top the pile currently and with Mo Salah the division's current top scorer - who'd have thought it? 😜

19 hours ago, MuespachRam said:

United could be back in the hunt to do both those things really quickly. 

United are already 19 points behind Liverpool so they've zero chance this season. They'll also struggle to be playing in the Champions League next season unless there's some sort of miraculous and immediate turnaround, so what is it exactly that you think is going to change 'really quickly'? OGS' sole Premiership management experience entailed getting Cardiff relegated so whilst we may see some improvement, them storming the League seems a rather fanciful notion and winning the Champions League even more so.

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