DarkFruitsRam7 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Animal is a Ram said: Well that went well. Suspect we may start seeing Max Bird promoted more regularly. Based on the position King plays (as one of the more advanced two rather than the holding midfielder), I imagine the role would be more suited to Sibley. Whether Lampard thinks he's ready yet is a different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Can we get George Thorne back,I’m sure he’s fully matchfit with all the football he’s been playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 This is a real shame, we desperately need to get the midfield functioning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Whilst this has cost us money it could end up saving us money in the long term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Whilst this has cost us money it could end up saving us money in the long term How could it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, rynny said: How could it? Maybe we were going for a perm deal in the summer. We really don’t won’t be saddled with another sick note Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Shame for King. Hadn't shown anything so far but given a run of games he would (I hope) have proved useful as he's a decent player. Puts us back to square one. With Bryson and Mount injured I don't see what choice Frank has but to give one of the U23s a go. Bird seems most likely as he has had 1st team experience. He can't be tempted to play Huddlestone, Wilson and Holmes in a 3 man midfield. He can't, right? Please say he can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrm14 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, VulcanRam said: He can't be tempted to play Huddlestone, Wilson and Holmes in a 3 man midfield. He can't, right? Please say he can't. That's the exact same midfield he ran when we got tonked 3-0 at our place so lets hope he's learned from that. I'll cry if that's the starting midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, VulcanRam said: Shame for King. Hadn't shown anything so far but given a run of games he would (I hope) have proved useful as he's a decent player. Puts us back to square one. With Bryson and Mount injured I don't see what choice Frank has but to give one of the U23s a go. Bird seems most likely as he has had 1st team experience. He can't be tempted to play Huddlestone, Wilson and Holmes in a 3 man midfield. He can't, right? Please say he can't. I think we're forgetting there's a decent player in Johnson, wouldn't be surprised to see him become a key player for the run in now. Other than that maybe we'll see Evans further up the pitch. I'd be more tempted to bring Sibley through over Bird, just because of the style of player Sibley is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, RamLad1884 said: I think we're forgetting there's a decent player in Johnson You know, you may well be right, you may be wrong. But isn't it a bit weird that after three and a half years here we don't really know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I am beginning to think that some of our players have a great future behind them! No names, no pack drill. (although our Captain ?✈️ is not among the candidates). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 9 hours ago, RamLad1884 said: I think we're forgetting there's a decent player in Johnson, wouldn't be surprised to see him become a key player for the run in now. Other than that maybe we'll see Evans further up the pitch. I'd be more tempted to bring Sibley through over Bird, just because of the style of player Sibley is. You’re right, he actually slipped my mind. And I’m one of those rarities who quite like the bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 11 hours ago, VulcanRam said: Shame for King. Hadn't shown anything so far but given a run of games he would (I hope) have proved useful as he's a decent player. Puts us back to square one. With Bryson and Mount injured I don't see what choice Frank has but to give one of the U23s a go. Bird seems most likely as he has had 1st team experience. He can't be tempted to play Huddlestone, Wilson and Holmes in a 3 man midfield. He can't, right? Please say he can't. I don't see why not. The previous defeat to villa was due to the the tactical change to 352 in the last 20 minutes. We conceded 3 goals in ten minutes as villa raided down their left flank getting in behind the advanced bogle. It was nothing to do with the midfield trio. He also has bradley johnson. I know......but. Max bird is another lee holmes. Promoted too soon creating the impression that that is a mercurial talent in the ranks. would it really be fair on him to throw him in? Against southampton he showed very little. Its a huge step up from u23 football to the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, RamNut said: I don't see why not. The previous defeat to villa was due to the the tactical change to 352 in the last 20 minutes. We conceded 3 goals in ten minutes as villa raided down their left flank getting in behind the advanced bogle. It was nothing to do with the midfield trio. He also has bradley johnson. I know......but. Max bird is another lee holmes. Promoted too soon creating the impression that that is a mercurial talent in the ranks. would it really be fair on him to throw him in? Against southampton he showed very little. Its a huge step up from u23 football to the first team. Where he played in one of the advanced two to give him first team playing experience. He's a ball winner first and foremost - more of a Eustace than a Thorne (at the moment), although the passing side of his game has improved a lot this season. He's a clever player and very few if any intercept or win the ball back as often as him at U23 level. Unlike some youths who can be thrown in 'too early', Bird has the right type of head on his shoulders. Just like Bogle, he won't let a stray pass or bad performance get too him. He'll want to receive the ball back to make up for giving the ball away, or to be back out on the field to put in a better performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 He'd been pretty poor in a turgid midfield. No real surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: He's a ball winner first and foremost - more of a Eustace than a Thorne (at the moment) Ha, I think the exact opposite, I've found his passing pretty impressive! He had a couple of brilliant assists in the last u23 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 43 minutes ago, Carnero said: Ha, I think the exact opposite, I've found his passing pretty impressive! He had a couple of brilliant assists in the last u23 game. I’d say so too from what I’ve seen of him, deffo a cdm tho out of position against Southampton, needs to be played deeper as he doesn’t appear thaaaaat mobile. More of a Thorne than a eustace for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 When George Thorne was playing in that CDM role for under 23s Bird got pushed further forward and I think his form suffered a bit as a consequence. He's looked great since he's been back in there and passes very well from deep. My only concern is his strength when he will generally have much closer attention in the Championship than at under 23 level. But our current midfield gap does seem to be further forward, which is why I would prefer to see Sibley given a go. He would do just that (give it a go!) and would drive into the box. Both good young midfielders but play very different roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 What age are Bird and Sibley in relation to Mount and Wilson ?………. Exactly so give them a go. Wilson also needs a player with him to play one twos with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: What age are Bird and Sibley in relation to Mount and Wilson ?………. Exactly so give them a go. Wilson also needs a player with him to play one twos with. A year older than Chris Martin @RoyMac5 will tell you ? Max Bird 18 Louie Sibley 17 Mason Mount 20 Harry Wilson 22 this month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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