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Paul Clement Sacked.......again

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Waiting for his next tweet which will be a selfie with Beckham or Zidane who he bumped into, weird one. Probably needs to look outside of England if he still wants to persue a career in management, Bundesliga 2 perhaps or Segunda.

After Derby many felt for him, didn’t think he deserved the boot and had the media on his side, took on 2 clubs which were struggling and failed, now his name will barely fill an inch in the tabloids.

Not all managers are cut out for the struggles at the bottom where your Allardyce’s excel, best to avoid these types of jobs now and look for a steady mid table side which have the potential to move up the table.

The most obvious next move is Napoli assistant, but it’s like moving back in with the parents after a failed relationship, needs to stand on his own 2 feet now.

 

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1 hour ago, nfb said:

The 'Reading mould' , oooh 😉

Sounds ominously like the 'derby way'. . .  A statement which the press and fans use when things go t!ts up 😈

Ha Ha!  Thought exactly the same when I read that!

 

Much rather have a "Way" than "mould" though!  Bad for your health, is mould!  Eew!

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37 minutes ago, David said:

Not all managers are cut out for the struggles at the bottom where your Allardyce’s excel, best to avoid these types of jobs now and look for a steady mid table side which have the potential to move up the table.

 

In this league, where it's sooo close, if you actually have any talent as a coach you won't be struggling at the bottom for long.

Look at McClaren at QPR... much like Reading last season, also had no money to spend and had to rely on loans.  IIRC Reading interviewed McClaren when they appointed Clement. They made a poor choice.

Totally different style... Warnock at Cardiff last year.  Similarly on a shoestring budget,

Wagner at Huddersfield the year before.

There's a real difference in what it takes to be a great no #2 vs a great no #1. I honestly don't believe Clement will be a success anywhere, regardless of the situation of the team. 

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10 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said:

Ha Ha!  Thought exactly the same when I read that!

 

Much rather have a "Way" than "mould" though!  Bad for your health, is mould!  Eew!

Except, of course, in the case of antibiotics 😜

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50 minutes ago, David said:

After Derby many felt for him, didn’t think he deserved the boot and had the media on his side, took on 2 clubs which were struggling and failed, now his name will barely fill an inch in the tabloids.

Yeah I think I was in this category, whilst not exactly scintillating football we were in the top six and could have kicked on again.  As a first time manager I felt he deserved more time and leeway to make mistakes.  That said, I have no idea what went on behind the scenes and MM felt it necessary to sack him so we move on.

Since then though his time and Swansea and Reading have been average at best (and that's being kind!) perhaps he's a better coach than manager, or perhaps he needs to choose his next job very wisely and build his career and learn his trade at a lower league with an ambitious, long term thinking owner.  Either that or get on the phone to Carlo...

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6 minutes ago, therealhantsram said:

In this league, where it's sooo close, if you actually have any talent as a coach you won't be struggling at the bottom for long.

Look at McClaren at QPR... much like Reading last season, also had no money to spend and had to rely on loans.  IIRC Reading interviewed McClaren when they appointed Clement. They made a poor choice.

Totally different style... Warnock at Cardiff last year.  Similarly on a shoestring budget,

Wagner at Huddersfield the year before.

There's a real difference in what it takes to be a great no #2 vs a great no #1. I honestly don't believe Clement will be a success anywhere, regardless of the situation of the team. 

Won’t argue that, can’t with what McClaren is doing now with QPR. To be honest all I saw of Reading was looking rubbish Stam, down the bottom of the table. Did he walk into a fractured dressing room, was there issues inside that he didn’t have the experience or know how to get the players on board

Not trying to make excuses for him, just he’s taken 2 jobs now with clubs which were struggling, one of which went down even after his departure with plenty of time left, would not be surprised if Reading went as well this season.

That’s the problem he has now, other clubs will share your views, if he was a decent coach he would have turned them around, he now has to convince a club that Reading and Swansea were both doomed, nothing he could have done to prevent that and he is the real deal. Good luck with that!

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3 hours ago, rynny said:

Three jobs, each lasting less than a year. Wonder how many still think we would have been promoted if he wasn't sacked. 

TBH, I still think he might have done something here. I dunno what happened between him and Morris but he did have us top for awhile and okay a mini slump but I still feel we pulled the plug too quickly. Makes no difference now, all iffs buts and maybe stuff.

Rome was not built in a day but he never got to breakfast time.

TBF to him he has taken some basket case jobs since leaving us. 

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32 minutes ago, Angry Ram said:

TBH, I still think he might have done something here. I dunno what happened between him and Morris but he did have us top for awhile and okay a mini slump but I still feel we pulled the plug too quickly. Makes no difference now, all iffs buts and maybe stuff.

Rome was not built in a day but he never got to breakfast time.

TBF to him he has taken some basket case jobs since leaving us. 

To me it seemed as though we were carrying on from 14/15 (the good part) and the longer he was in charge, the more he changed, the worse we got. Players lost their confidence, that bit of swagger we had under Mac. But as you say all ifs and buts now. 

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10 minutes ago, rynny said:

To me it seemed as though we were carrying on from 14/15 (the good part) and the longer he was in charge, the more he changed, the worse we got. Players lost their confidence, that bit of swagger we had under Mac. But as you say all ifs and buts now. 

Fair point.. I still think he was unfairly tarred on some transfers. That was all hindsight.. Morris having a wobble and his power trip.. All conspired to cloud his time here.

I can slaughter Pearson, Mac 2 but I feel Clement should be cut some slack.

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1 minute ago, Angry Ram said:

Fair point.. I still think he was unfairly tarred on some transfers. That was all hindsight.. Morris having a wobble and his power trip.. All conspired to cloud his time here.

I can slaugher Pearson, Mac 2 but I feel Clement should be cut some slack.

I have no issues with any of the summer transfers (maybe should have loaned in Johnson/CM instead of buying), you could see why they were brought in, it's the Blackman and Camara deals that I always have, and will, question.

Personally just don't think he was good enough for what we wanted, I'm glad we gave him a chance, it was refreshing to give an untried manager a go (same as now). The Pearson one is the one that grates me the most (along with Rowett). I'm a Mac lover and won't have bad thing to say about him 😂

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29 minutes ago, rynny said:

I'm a Mac lover and won't have bad thing to say about him 😂

His hair is a mess, needs to shave it off. Try and defend his reluctance to grab the clippers....

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12 minutes ago, David said:

His hair is a mess, needs to shave it off. Try and defend his reluctance to grab the clippers....

I think he is one of those that wouldn't suit a shaved, not all of us can pull it off. 

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39 minutes ago, rynny said:

I think he is one of those that wouldn't suit a shaved, not all of us can pull it off. 

I'm starting to get an island going.. It's a big shout to go for them clippers. 

Got to be done at some point though, it's not a good look.

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30 minutes ago, Highgate said:

Seems likely that he's just not very good at managing football teams. 

I'm not sure he is the sort that can properly motivate a group of players.  Perhaps he is better suited to being an assistant.  By all accounts he was good at that. 

Different people have different abilities and skills. For example I have some good technical knowledge in my field, but zero skill or inclination towards management, I'd not be good at it and it'd not make me happy.

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