Sexydadbod Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7685903/chelsea-maurizio-sarri-bans-training-weights-ballerinas/amp/ Chelsea are the only side unbeaten in all competitions in Europe’s top five leagues. Fascinating after the criticism Paul Clement got for banning heavy weights at Derby. I don’t see anything wrong with it personally. Players lose too much of their natural abilities and strengths using weights and weights increase the risk of injuries. Sarri is in favour of stretching, yoga and natural exercises such as push ups to increase core strength. Ryan Giggs said he doing yoga extended his playing career Klopp said the same thing to Joe Gomez. Footballers are over obsessed with having great bodies and big muscles for beach bodies when much of the time it’s not necessary as it is with other sports such as Rugby. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-4743068/amp/Liverpool-boss-Klopp-tells-Joe-Gomez-stop-pumping-iron.html Maybe Paul Clement was ahead of the ball and copied what they did in European leagues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 27 minutes ago, McLovin said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7685903/chelsea-maurizio-sarri-bans-training-weights-ballerinas/amp/ Chelsea are the only side unbeaten in all competitions in Europe’s top five leagues. Fascinating after the criticism Paul Clement got for banning heavy weights at Derby. I don’t see anything wrong with it personally. Players lose too much of their natural abilities and strengths using weights and weights increase the risk of injuries. Sarri is in favour of stretching, yoga and natural exercises such as push ups to increase core strength. Ryan Giggs said he doing yoga extended his playing career Klopp said the same thing to Joe Gomez. Footballers are over obsessed with having great bodies and big muscles for beach bodies when much of the time it’s not necessary as it is with other sports such as Rugby. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-4743068/amp/Liverpool-boss-Klopp-tells-Joe-Gomez-stop-pumping-iron.html Maybe Paul Clement was ahead of the ball and copied what they did in European leagues? But on the other hand, I seem to recall tthat move upset the squad amongst other things that they didn't buy into around the time it all went pish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Guess it depends on how it’s implemented and the players you’re working with, if you walk into your first job in management and rock the boat by removing the dumbbells and the gym where players socialised in you’re going to run into issues. Didn’t work either as players went to gyms away from the club and did their own thing. In my non professional opinion each player is different, a blanket ban on all weights makes little sense when a key part of the job is to keep the players happy. You might want to ask your Waghorn’s to lay off the weights for a bit as he’s looking a little stocky, but if your Harry Wilson or Mason Mount wants to work on their 6 pack after training under the clubs roof and supervision from the coaches ready for the summer, is that a bad thing? Same with food, each players diet will be managed differently, serving up the same meal and quantity to every player can’t be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I remember Arthur Cox saying that Phil Gee needed to lift some weights and get stronger. Gee duly put on some muscle and was never the same again. Arthur didn't make many mistakes, but I think that was one. And yes, I know Cox was a football genius and I'm just a bumbling buffoon, but I still think I'm right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I wonder what Pulis and Rowett make of this? Seriously,I’ve always been interested to know what sort of fitness/diet regime the players have? I wouldn’t have thought a weights program would be a priority for footballers but could help in certain areas,especially recovering injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 9 hours ago, McLovin said: Players lose too much of their natural abilities and strengths using weights and weights increase the risk of injuries. Based on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I can totally understand the reasoning of this during the season. Off-season thought I'd certainly do some legs with heavy weights too. So mostly I agree with Sarri, especially the upper body training is quite pointless with footballers, except the core of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 23 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Based on? Science. Weights increase strength but at the expense of other areas such as balance and there is an increased risk of injury because of extra pressure on joints and muscles on the lower body. If players do natural body exercises as Sarri was referring to then there is a far less risk of injury and they don’t lose their other attributes such as their speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, McLovin said: Science. Weights increase strength but at the expense of other areas such as balance and there is an increased risk of injury because of extra pressure on joints and muscles on the lower body. If players do natural body exercises as Sarri was referring to then there is a far less risk of injury and they don’t lose their other attributes such as their speed. And what natural abilities do they lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: And what natural abilities do they lose? Balance, speed, agility, endurance/stamina, reduced risk of injury. All important aspects in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, McLovin said: Balance, speed, agility, endurance/stamina, reduced risk of injury. All important aspects in football. Do we have any examples of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: Do we have any examples of this? Chelsea and Science!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, Dimmu said: I can totally understand the reasoning of this during the season. Off-season thought I'd certainly do some legs with heavy weights too. So mostly I agree with Sarri, especially the upper body training is quite pointless with footballers, except the core of course. Absolutely. I think Sarri’s argument is that players can still have a very strong core doing natural exercises such as planks and push ups. It’s clearly working as they are the only unbeaten side in Europe’s top five leagues in all competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I think he's right...……….To use a horse racing analogy. You need sleek thoroughbreds not strong cart horses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Do we have any examples of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Miles Addison came back from long-term injury with a physique that suggested he'd been on the weights and he was rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Miles Addison came back from long-term injury with a physique that suggested he'd been on the weights and he was rubbish. Yes that was one that sprung to mind but to be fair he was hardly Usain Bolt prior to his injury. On the other flip of the coin, I think Hughesy bulked up a little during his time out with injury and I don't remember it affecting his natural ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 12 hours ago, McLovin said: Balance, speed, agility, endurance/stamina, reduced risk of injury. All important aspects in football. I'd say the exact opposite for a lot of them, balance especially. Weights are fantastic for core strength and balance, will increase sprint speed and acceleration, stamina and recovery from short bursts is improved and stronger muscles get injured less. This is mostly anecdotal from what I've observed and found myself, but I definitely think a blanket ban is ridiculous. I'm sure if done in excess it could have a detriment to the playing football, but its up to the clubs to manage properly and enjoy the benefits of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 13 hours ago, McLovin said: Balance, speed, agility, endurance/stamina, reduced risk of injury. All important aspects in football. The attributes you have listed are not incompatible with strength, look at players like Pogba and Ronaldo for example they have all of those attributes with a lot of strength. Every player is different but as long as you don't bulk up to Akinfenwa levels you won't impact upon your overall performance. So I think a gym ban seems a bit harsh, but maybe it was becuase the Chelsea players were over doing the muscle and getting a bit too big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 14 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Do we have any examples of this? Phil Gee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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