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Could we upgrade on Carson ?

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Simple debate ? Not sure in the answer myself , just wondered what fellow Rams fans thoughts were on this as I was having a drunken debate with the brother in law last night whilst sipping a few cocktails in sunny Gran canaria. As a goalkeeper i.e shot stopping , rushing out , catches from corners Carson is next to none. But with the modern game developing and more being demanded from keepers (almost to play as a sweeper at times ) could we look at potentially bringing in some better competition for Scott , someone who's distribution is perhaps better ? 

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Carson is the best keeper we have had since poom imo.

However you can see why he never really made it at the top level,

1 he should have saved fabregas shot.

2 his distribution is somewhat debatable 

To improve on him we would have to spend a few £million 

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4 minutes ago, gazram80 said:

Carson is the best keeper we have had since poom imo.

However you can see why he never really made it at the top level,

1 he should have saved fabregas shot.

2 his distribution is somewhat debatable 

To improve on him we would have to spend a few £million 

I agree with point 2 but think point 1 is slightly harsh I think the deflection took it away from him. I cannot think of a realistic keeper we could target. I'm sure the majority of PL clubs would love an Alisson or a Ederson, unfortunately they are few and far between. When Worm was at Swansea he was pretty decent with his feet but cant see him leaving Spurs and at 35 he'd be no long term solution.

For me on the whole I cant see the need to replace Scott, a keepers job should be to keep the ball out the goal, any other attributes are a bonus. plus we have the 6th best defensive record in the division so cant all be bad. 

The way I see it if you have a keeper whose distribution isn't amazing it is up to the outfield players to make themselves available quickly and show for easy balls.

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Carson is easily the best shot stopper we've had since Poom, but his distribution let's him down. 

But let's not kid ourselves, to get a keeper that's got both the shot stopping abilities of Carson and the distribution of someone like Grant we'd have to spend a pretty penny, all such keepers will be playing in the Prem. 

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I seriously think you’d struggle to find a keeper better than him that would willingly play in the championship, outside of relegated players like Butland.

I can sort of see why someone would think he’s dropped off a bit this season but I think come May we’ll look back and he’ll have had another excellent season

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19 minutes ago, Topram said:

When you watch the highlights back just look at that save he makes from the corner, can’t remember who heads it but it’s a Worldie that went unnoticed 

It was Morata and, yes, very good save - though someone was on the line behind him. That's the curse of the goalkeeper, it's the ones you didn't get that get remembered. Ask any football fan to recall one highlight of Carson and we all know which one it would be.

Could we upgrade on Carson? Of course, to the earlier point we can do anything if we've got some money. But I wouldn't suggest it's needed - he is as good as any keeper in the Championship and I'd suggest as good as at least half of those in the Prem. He's at least the equal of the likes of Boric, Fabianski or Foster.

I'm not sure about upgrading on Carson but I would like us to upgrade on Kelle Roos - if I looked at our squad we are one serious injury away from potentially having a big problem. Not to get down on Roos but there isn't much evidence to suggest he is top end Championship standard.

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3 minutes ago, BaaLocks said:

It was Morata and, yes, very good save - though someone was on the line behind him. That's the curse of the goalkeeper, it's the ones you didn't get that get remembered. Ask any football fan to recall one highlight of Carson and we all know which one it would be.

Could we upgrade on Carson? Of course, to the earlier point we can do anything if we've got some money. But I wouldn't suggest it's needed - he is as good as any keeper in the Championship and I'd suggest as good as at least half of those in the Prem. He's at least the equal of the likes of Boric, Fabianski or Foster.

I'm not sure about upgrading on Carson but I would like us to upgrade on Kelle Roos - if I looked at our squad we are one serious injury away from having a big problem.

Aha, luckily Chris Weale is not registered as a player currently. Or we could go all Phil Brown and play Shay Given.

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9 minutes ago, Derbados said:

Apart from the time spent playing in the premier league for Liverpool and West Brom and the 4 England caps. . . 

If that’s not top level what is?

Remind me where he is now?

Like I said he has not made it at the top level because he is prone to errors x

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9 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said:

I seriously think you’d struggle to find a keeper better than him that would willingly play in the championship, outside of relegated players like Butland.

I can sort of see why someone would think he’s dropped off a bit this season but I think come May we’ll look back and he’ll have had another excellent season

I get your point but I'd have Carson over Butland any day of the week. Was rather m'eh on him when he was here.

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