KCG Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, Dappled Ram said: Why on earth would we upgrade on Carson. Every human being has dips in form now and then. In my opinion we were lucky to hold on to him at the end of last season and many times he's kept us in the games. Keep off Carson! The only problem with Carson is his distribution, which is more evident from Frank's preferred style of play. I think Carson needs to stop flapping and just play the simple pass. He's creating his own demons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I think you can "upgrade" on most players, but it's clearly just a dip in form with Carson. That said, how many different 'keeper coaches has he worked under here? Contrasting styles and ideoligies could be having an impact on somebody so experienced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Dappled Ram said: Why on earth would we upgrade on Carson. Every human being has dips in form now and then. In my opinion we were lucky to hold on to him at the end of last season and many times he's kept us in the games. Keep off Carson! Can't think of many games he's influenced this season, but certainly earned us a lot of points last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK47 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 See.. Carson is like a having a misses. After a while you take her (him) for granted... Possibly even get rid in place of a newer fresher model... But then down the line you find out the newer model has more flaws than the good one you ditched, then you have to sit and watch them happy with someone else who values them. And then you're back to square one tryna find a decent keeper in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 10 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said: That said, how many different 'keeper coaches has he worked under here? Contrasting styles and ideoligies could be having an impact on somebody so experienced? He has had 3 since he has been here, Zubi, Poole and now Given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfella Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 18 hours ago, KCG said: The only problem with Carson is his distribution, which is more evident from Frank's preferred style of play. I think Carson needs to stop flapping and just play the simple pass. He's creating his own demons! I agree Carson’s delivery could improve however in mitigation he needs someone to pass to - the two centre halves are his usual outlet but if the opposition press high he needs other players to make themselves available and, in my opinion, they don’t do that so he is forced to try a more risky pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolram Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 22 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: His form has dropped but his distribution has been poor all season and isn't showing much sign of improvement to me, so not sure why it's an easy observation to say it will improve. You could argue that Joe Hart was playing well for Man City so why did Guardiola need to change him? If we are to stick with playing out from the back, and I really hope we do, Carson needs to work on his distribution and cut out the regular mistakes. agree, he does need to improve his distribution. But I think we could spend the money elsewhere imo. Fair point on Joe Hart too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, bristolram said: agree, he does need to improve his distribution. But I think we could spend the money elsewhere imo. Fair point on Joe Hart too. Agreed, full backs got to be the necessity in my opinion...although having said that, we have already spent millions on Malone and Wisdom (although this was not an FL signing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 An absolute ducking poo-show tonight Swap the keepers around and we've won this easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Matt H said: An absolute ducking poo-show tonight Swap the keepers around and we've won this easily Where’s the £20m coming from to get Butland then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbylad92 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Carson was awful tonight not like the Scotty from last seasons and bogle not good enough gives us note all game! (but wisdom no better) surely we have a better right back then both of these awful! Bogle only looks good with MB in front of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 So, two shots that he managed to get a hand on make it a poor performance, just a little more hand on either shot and everyone is saying what great saves. I'm sure Carson will be disappointed. Butland did well, but we're talking millimetres between roles being reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, Duracell said: Where’s the £20m coming from to get Butland then? That's beside the point really, even Carson from last season would do but he seems to be getting progressively worse. You won't need someone as good as Butland to improve on him if he carries on like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, richinspain said: So, two shots that he managed to get a hand on make it a poor performance, just a little more hand on either shot and everyone is saying what great saves. I'm sure Carson will be disappointed. Butland did well, but we're talking millimetres between roles being reversed. Both shots were saveable, Carson of previous years would of smothered them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 A bit limp wristed tonight unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 He’s been no where near as good as the last two seasons A solid keeper breeds confidance throughout the whole defence & don't think its a coincidence he’s been a little shakey & so has the defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, G-Ram said: He’s been no where near as good as the last two seasons A solid keeper breeds confidance throughout the whole defence & don't think its a coincidence he’s been a little shakey & so has the defence he was great the first half of last season too. But I agree his form has fallen off a cliff and I'm not sure why. If he was a forward you'd point to his age. That shouldn't be the case with carson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarodyDCFC Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Cut him some slack. It was raining, windy, and his car was nicked this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ilsonram12 said: Both shots were saveable, Carson of previous years would of smothered them I agree they were saveable, especially from what we have seen of Carson in the past, but it's still very fine margins. As I said, Carson will be very disappointed about both goals, but that's due to his normally very high standards. He had an off day. Many others did tonight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, richinspain said: So, two shots that he managed to get a hand on make it a poor performance, just a little more hand on either shot and everyone is saying what great saves. I'm sure Carson will be disappointed. Butland did well, but we're talking millimetres between roles being reversed. Sure, but that's what football is. It's a game of fine margins. Neither of those shots were too difficult to save, I'd expect more from Carson. Considering his distribution is so poor, I expect him to make up for it with good shot stopping. It wasn't good enough tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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