Rev Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I'll be honest, I'm a bit bored of people saying Mel's looking to quit/sell the club, and Frank's bound to look elsewhere due to the lack of investment/interest of our owner, without a scrap of evidence to back it up. Mel's literally just put himself out there in public justifying the slight season ticket cost rise, bigging up the Golden Rams etc, while leading the bounce at an away cup game at a ground he'd be forgiven for skipping, hardly the actions of a man disappearing into the sunset. Frank meanwhile gets to sign his veteran mate, talks about what he'd like to achieve with the club well beyond this season's end, has had a reasonable amount to spend to shape a squad so far, having raised the funds himself admittedly, and his longer term signings such as Marriott, Waghorn, Evans and Holmes are all making more and more of an impression as the season goes on, while the lads he's bought in on loan have all contributed to a great start for a rookie manager. He's done that, while also admitting that he's looking forward to the expected summer clear out so he can really make his mark on the squad. There is literally no sign of dissent or unhappiness in the background, yet people seem happy to insist that's the case based on whispers and what their mate has told them. No doubt Mel would like to see an end to the money pit we've become, but that doesn't mean he's reached his spending limit yet, and no doubt Frank is ambitious, but he's proved absolutely nothing yet. Anyone who thinks clubs would be queuing up to employ him based on what he's done so far are delusional, he's proven nothing yet that would tempt a premier League club to take a punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Such a shame though, if we don't go up this season, all it will take is someone like a Villa or any club with a budget and I honestly think Lampard would be off. He has ambitions far greater than the championship and if he feels for a second he can't achieve it with Derby he is off. Lampard has the potential to be our best manager since Jim Smith, I don't want to lose him. I don’t think that’ll be the case. For one I think we’ll get additional investment pretty soon, just gut instinct but I can at least see Mel selling part the club purely to bring in extra funds so we won’t be so cashless next season. The out of contract players leaving will help as well. It’s a shame we may not have the budget to push on this year but I don’t think it’ll last, and frank doesn’t look like a man I’m a rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowram Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Millenniumram said: He’s looking to sell from whispers I hear, would you be throwing millions at a club hanging in sixth place when you’ve already lost countless millions and want out? Would think the answer is a resounding no. This is real money not Monopoly money remember. Promotion would make the club an easy sell. Someone would come in with a guaranteed first season income of £75 millon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 12 hours ago, Topram said: Hogan having medical at sheff United So we can sign McGoldrick then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, coneheadjohn said: So we can sign McGoldrick then? Just signed a new contract, looks like Leon Clarke might be off though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Just signed a new contract, looks like Leon Clarke might be off though.... He’ll do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 10 hours ago, reveldevil said: I'll be honest, I'm a bit bored of people saying Mel's looking to quit/sell the club, and Frank's bound to look elsewhere due to the lack of investment/interest of our owner, without a scrap of evidence to back it up. Mel's literally just put himself out there in public justifying the slight season ticket cost rise, bigging up the Golden Rams etc, while leading the bounce at an away cup game at a ground he'd be forgiven for skipping, hardly the actions of a man disappearing into the sunset. Frank meanwhile gets to sign his veteran mate, talks about what he'd like to achieve with the club well beyond this season's end, has had a reasonable amount to spend to shape a squad so far, having raised the funds himself admittedly, and his longer term signings such as Marriott, Waghorn, Evans and Holmes are all making more and more of an impression as the season goes on, while the lads he's bought in on loan have all contributed to a great start for a rookie manager. He's done that, while also admitting that he's looking forward to the expected summer clear out so he can really make his mark on the squad. There is literally no sign of dissent or unhappiness in the background, yet people seem happy to insist that's the case based on whispers and what their mate has told them. No doubt Mel would like to see an end to the money pit we've become, but that doesn't mean he's reached his spending limit yet, and no doubt Frank is ambitious, but he's proved absolutely nothing yet. Anyone who thinks clubs would be queuing up to employ him based on what he's done so far are delusional, he's proven nothing yet that would tempt a premier League club to take a punt. Well said. Regarding transfers - I think Frank has made some good signings so far, so I don't understand the whinging from some. No manager has a perfect record, and when a signing doesn't work out, its not always because the manager is crap at assessing players. Mount, Tomori and Wilson have been successful loans already. Holmes is a bargain and I am very excited about him being a Derby player in the future. Evans has potential, needs a run of games. Marriott is a star, and easy to support. Waghorn is improving and I think will do a good job. Malone has come in to be an attacking full back, and has shown he can be an asset (WBA away). FloJo has yet to really shine consistently, but again has shown glimpses (Hull away). In terms of January - we need a CB. My thinking is we are unlikely to get a decent loan if they're not guaranteed starting time over Keogh and Tomori, who have been good. I would like to think we could find a younger player from a lower league, someone who would not expect to start every game but would be able to step in next season when Tomori returns to Chelski. Wishful thinking, but a Holmes like signing (under the radar, low expectation). Loan out a few of the big earners who are not playing (where possible). see what's available that will improve us. Easier said than done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Villa been linked with both Nathaniel Chalobah & Isaac Hayden on loan with Hayden the more likely. Both would be quality loan signings at this level, I would love us to be in for Hayden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edtheram Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Do we need Mel to be more active in looking for funds? Hes a Derby bloke and a Derby fan which is great to have at the head of the club but do we need investment as soon as possible, we are in a great position this year to make a big push and it would be a shame for that to end due to lacking 5 million? Not saying anything negative or slating Mel! just asking for opinions...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 OUR LACK OF SPENDING IS DUE TO FFP RESTRICTIONS NOT A LACK OF FUNDS ! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TibshelfRam Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 11 hours ago, Edtheram said: I see Thorne hasn’t played a single minute for Luton yet and I don’t think he’s even been involved in a match day squad as of yet. And some people think that he was ready for a start here.....he has just become a dad I believe but it just shows that they weren’t able to throw him straight in, Suspect some of that may be down to him being a signing brought in by Nathan Jones, who swiftly jumped ship to Stoke two days after. So Thorne may not be someone that the new manger wants/doesn't suit his style of play. Alas, I don't really know enough about the tactical analysis of Luton Twon. Ask Marcelo Bielsa - he'll give you a powerpoint presentation as to why George Thorne has been out of the starting line up should you so desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 12 hours ago, Edtheram said: I see Thorne hasn’t played a single minute for Luton yet and I don’t think he’s even been involved in a match day squad as of yet. And some people think that he was ready for a start here.....he has just become a dad I believe but it just shows that they weren’t able to throw him straight in, Luton's fixtures since he signed: Sunderland - unused sub Sheff Weds - FA Cup replay so not eligible Peterborough - Came on in the 69th min Southend - unused sub Portsmouth - last night's match, not in the squad due to the birth of his 1st child So he has been in the squad when available and also made 1 sub appearance. He was never going to go straight into their starting line-up when they are top of the league and he hasn't played first team football all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Boro allowing Assombalonga out on loan, would score goals in our team for sure, wages appear to be the issue for any club interested in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 13 hours ago, MK-Ram said: I don't know anything about Mel's personal position or his intentions but he has been more distant and out of the spotlight than previously and, without doubt, if you wanted to raise the profile of the club prior to sale then Lampard was the way to do that. That being said, even if Mel did want to sell, I would still be amazed if he would sanction a move for Pearce without being prepared to back Frank in getting a replacement Probably because when he did get involved the “social media lynch mob” went into overdrive! He’s damned if he does and he’s damned if he doesn’t. I’d prefer to put a positive slant on things and say that he’s happy with Lampard’s performance so far as the manager and he’s happy to take a back seat for once.This is a local bloke and boyhood fan who’s invested over £100 million in the club.For that alone,I think he deserves some slack.Lampard has a massive job on his hands for an apprentice in the role and the departure of 8/9 players in summer will test the club’s financial status and the recruitment Department’s quality. Personally,I’d recruit Brentford’s scouting system!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, DCFC1388 said: Boro allowing Assombalonga out on loan, would score goals in our team for sure, wages appear to be the issue for any club interested in him Another one we can’t afford just like Chalobah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, Topram said: Another one we can’t afford just like Chalobah Says who? Nobody knows how much of the wages the parent club are wanting to be covered and how much we're willing to pay, same goes for loan fee's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 29 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Boro allowing Assombalonga out on loan, would score goals in our team for sure, wages appear to be the issue for any club interested in him I would sign Assombalonga and pay a gazillion pound for him, pump him full of Iron Bru and unleash him against Forest, just for kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Edtheram said: Do we need Mel to be more active in looking for funds? Hes a Derby bloke and a Derby fan which is great to have at the head of the club but do we need investment as soon as possible, we are in a great position this year to make a big push and it would be a shame for that to end due to lacking 5 million? Not saying anything negative or slating Mel! just asking for opinions...... Give this a read.. .http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/financial-fair-play-explained.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 17 hours ago, reveldevil said: I'll be honest, I'm a bit bored of people saying Mel's looking to quit/sell the club, and Frank's bound to look elsewhere due to the lack of investment/interest of our owner, without a scrap of evidence to back it up. Mel's literally just put himself out there in public justifying the slight season ticket cost rise, bigging up the Golden Rams etc, while leading the bounce at an away cup game at a ground he'd be forgiven for skipping, hardly the actions of a man disappearing into the sunset. Frank meanwhile gets to sign his veteran mate, talks about what he'd like to achieve with the club well beyond this season's end, has had a reasonable amount to spend to shape a squad so far, having raised the funds himself admittedly, and his longer term signings such as Marriott, Waghorn, Evans and Holmes are all making more and more of an impression as the season goes on, while the lads he's bought in on loan have all contributed to a great start for a rookie manager. He's done that, while also admitting that he's looking forward to the expected summer clear out so he can really make his mark on the squad. There is literally no sign of dissent or unhappiness in the background, yet people seem happy to insist that's the case based on whispers and what their mate has told them. No doubt Mel would like to see an end to the money pit we've become, but that doesn't mean he's reached his spending limit yet, and no doubt Frank is ambitious, but he's proved absolutely nothing yet. Anyone who thinks clubs would be queuing up to employ him based on what he's done so far are delusional, he's proven nothing yet that would tempt a premier League club to take a punt. This! Yes Revel, in spades mate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Carnero said: OUR LACK OF SPENDING IS DUE TO FFP RESTRICTIONS NOT A LACK OF FUNDS ! ? Never gets old, does it? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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