David Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Thoughts @Alpha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 DM is the easiest position in the game to play. Particularly in a side that doesn't have to tackle - e.g. Every team that Busquets has ever played in, so Dier definitely has more to do. Dier is less mobile, but better in the air. Not convinced he'd be much worse on the ball than Busquets if he played in sides that always had a man available to pass to either. That said, and for all his smarmyness, Busquets has been one of the best at receiving the ball off the centre backs under some pressure and passing to actually talented footballers. Dier makes more silly errors/shows lack of concentration more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Still doesn't resolve the is a fit George tThorne better than Eric Dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Most laughable thing I’ve ever heard. Busquets has been the best in that position for a good 10 years now. Rio knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Still doesn't resolve the is a fit George tThorne better than Eric Dire. There is no such thing as a fit George Thorne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 23 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: There is no such thing as a fit George Thorne And there is precious little evidence that he would be any better than Dier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 55 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Still doesn't resolve the is a fit George tThorne better than Eric Dire. 46 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: There is no such thing as a fit George Thorne I doubt there is a George tThorne either. Unless RadioactiveWaste has reverted to his native tongue and puts a "t" before everything. If he does, then my post is in t'bin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Key Club King Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Busquets is one of those players that other players rave about but the public don't have the knowledge to appreciate - a bit like Paul Scholes. Other than from Big Sam, I've yet to here similar praise for Eric Dier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: There is no such thing as a fit George Thorne Oh, I don't know. ......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Dier ain’t as dire as people make out but he sure as hell ain’t Sergio busquets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 No wonder Allardyce is out of work...Those two don't have much in common. Dier is just poor as a defensive midfielder whereas Busquets is so disgusting with his theatrics that it hurts my eyes and a change of channel is inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Is big Sam better than Popeye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Personally i think busquets is over-rated. agree with the statement DM is the easiest position on the pitch, particularly in a team that doesn't need one. No idea if Dier is any good. Looks a bit like a soft centre back playing midfield and with no pace. Could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Dier is horrific at picking up runners onto his defence. Truly awful. Busquets isn't. I'd love to do a two footed tackle on Busquets at about neck height but he patrols his back line better. And he has a far better touch. It's an easy position to look good in. More passing options than any other position and you can hit easy diagonals all day long. Dier defends position horribly. He presses when he shouldn't and most his passing while accurate is the easy stuff He's protected by Spurs imo. Riding on a good team where they benefit from his fairly good passing and don't need the other side of his game. A bit like Spain got away with playing 9 midfielders for a while Better than Busquets... He's not better than Fellaini. Spurs central defence must keep him on a lead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Big Sam backtracking on his comment now. Tbf if he was on the Alan Brazil breakfast it was probably a toss up as to which of them was more p******d ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 15 hours ago, RamNut said: Personally i think busquets is over-rated. agree with the statement DM is the easiest position on the pitch, particularly in a team that doesn't need one. No idea if Dier is any good. Looks a bit like a soft centre back playing midfield and with no pace. Could be wrong. I think you’re understanding the job of the defensive midfielder. Busquets, for instance, made 7 tackles in the 4-2 win over Tottenham. More than anyone else on the pitch. Rakitic, in contrast, didn’t make any. He also posted a 100% pass accuracy. In a team that builds from the back, the holding midfielder is vital in linking the play. He has to pick up the ball off the GK and defenders, and then feed it to Barca’s other midfielders. He also is the guy who drops as the last man as the two CBs move wide. If he loses the ball at any point, the opposition have a clean run on goal. It requires huge amounts of responsibility. As for the Dier comparison. That’s absurd and typical of a manager who can’t get his side playing good football. If he can’t recognise what Busquets brings to the team (as Dier offers little) then he’s so far out of touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 John Eustace was better than both. Absolute beast defensively and gave it to more talented colleagues like a boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 The defensive midfield role is such a niche position. If you're good at it, it looks like the easiest position on the pitch. If you're not good at it, it looks like you're being swamped in midfield at every opportunity. It doesn't matter how good you are at football either, you could have the grace of Messi and the speed and strength of Ronaldo, but it all comes from your positioning and awareness of the game. George Thorne used to be able to do it so well, but it wasn't the second he lost in his legs that's the issue, it's the couple of seconds in his head that has caused him to go backwards. All that being said: Busquets makes my skin crawl, but he reads the game as good as anyone in the world in that position. He also has a good amount of ability to go with it. Dier isn't anywhere near that standard. He may get to the same level technically, but I'm sure he'll never get to the same level mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 22 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: John Eustace was better than both. Absolute beast defensively and gave it to more talented colleagues like a boss. Was just about to post that it's crazy to say Dier is as good as Busquests. Eustace however... Then I saw you beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I’d trust the opinions of Lampard, Gerrard and Rio because they have all played against Busquets rather than the opinion of a fat man who wets himself at night over the Kevin Nolan and Kevin Davies partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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