RoyMac5 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 21 minutes ago, The Arch Deacon said: I'd put my money on me over Butterfield. Nothing clever about that observation. Doesn't make it the right decision though. Look Butterfield played okay in the 23s, nothing stunning. He played better after he's scored, probably a confidence thing, but is he really what we need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Look Butterfield played okay in the 23s, nothing stunning. He played better after he's scored, probably a confidence thing, but is he really what we need? What did we need against Rotherham and Bolton then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Newleaf said: What did we need against Rotherham and Bolton then. IMHO someone to run at them with ball and some width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, RoyMac5 said: Look Butterfield played okay in the 23s, nothing stunning. He played better after he's scored, probably a confidence thing, but is he really what we need? He's not all we need, but a step in the right direction. Look Roy, I know you can't stand the bloke, but the absolute lack of any basic footballing ability from Bryson, Johnson, Ledley etc... leaves me speechless. Just incapable of simply passing a ball to a bloke in a Derby shirt more than 2 or 3 times in succession before...opps! lost it again! I know you accuse Butterfield of everything including starting the war in Iraq, but whatever you think, backwards, sideward, forwards or otherwise, he can complete a pass. Watching him in the U23's last night against an unbeaten Brighton was a timely reminder of that, he ran the show for the most part, clearly motm. In the right side, playing the right pass and move football that I think FL's trying to get towards (and which we all agree he should persevere with compared to Rowetball!) Leaving out JB and GT is just baffling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: IMHO someone to run at them with ball and some width. Ok that’s fair but we can argue all day about the merits of individuals. Frank stated when he arrived everyone started with a clean slate then he turned over the playing staff. It’s up to him now. Im just joshing around with what could be . I think our midfield has room for changes at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Arch Deacon said: He's not all we need, but a step in the right direction. Look Roy, I know you can't stand the bloke, but the absolute lack of any basic footballing ability from Bryson, Johnson, Ledley etc... leaves me speechless. Seriously? And I care little for Butters true, but all the bigging him up well what's it based on? A few games when he first came here and since then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Seriously? And I care little for Butters true, but all the bigging him up well what's it based on? A few games when he first came here and since then? Constant changes in management (6 in his 3 seasons), formation, style, strategy, etc... is good for no players form, Let me put the question to you. Who has performed to expectation in the same period??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, RoyMac5 said: Seriously? And I care little for Butters true, but all the bigging him up well what's it based on? A few games when he first came here and since then? But people were slating Johnson and now they like him. Its all relative mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Seriously? And I care little for Butters true, but all the bigging him up well what's it based on? A few games when he first came here and since then? 13 minutes ago, The Arch Deacon said: Constant changes in management (6 in his 3 seasons), formation, style, strategy, etc... is good for no players form, Let me put the question to you. Who has performed to expectation in the same period??? Struggling Roy?? Let me jog your memory. Thorne? Bryson? Johnson? Ledley? Elsnik? Anya? Palmer? DeSaart? (remember Him?) The list goes on. Have any prospered any better? Even Will Hughes, totally out of sorts since part way through the 15/16 season. Now look at him? And then there's Ince and Hendrick, all had to leave to advance their careers. Perhaps the problem is Derby's, not the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 55 minutes ago, The Arch Deacon said: but the absolute lack of any basic footballing ability from Bryson, Johnson, You mean, two of the midfield three that bossed united. Ignorant comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Andicis said: You mean, two of the midfield three that bossed united. Ignorant comment. .....and Bolton? Pointless comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, The Arch Deacon said: Struggling Roy?? Let me jog your memory. Thorne? Bryson? Johnson? Ledley? Elsnik? Anya? Palmer? DeSaart? (remember Him?) The list goes on. Have any prospered any better? Even Will Hughes, totally out of sorts since part way through the 15/16 season. Now look at him? And then there's Ince and Hendrick, all had to leave to advance their careers. ? Bryson, yes. Thorne, injured. Ledley, started okay for Snake and then he hissed. Johnson has shown and done more under similar negative circumstances than Butterfield. Anya, Palmer, DeSaart yeah Butterfield might be as good as them. I can only hope that Butterfield leaves to advance his career, I expect Hughes is looking over his shoulder even now. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: ? Bryson, yes. Thorne, injured. Ledley, started okay for Snake and then he hissed. Johnson has shown and done more under similar negative circumstances than Butterfield. Anya, Palmer, DeSaart yeah Butterfield might be as good as them. I can only hope that Butterfield leaves to advance his career, I expect Hughes is looking over his shoulder even now. ? Has Butterfield run over your cat Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Newleaf said: Unbelievable stuff. Butterfield stood out last night and against PSG. Is Rowett going to turn it around at Stoke What the frig has that got to do with anything being discussed here. You can’t go five minutes without bloody mentioning him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said: What the frig has that got to do with anything being discussed here. You can’t go five minutes without bloody mentioning him. Maybe shteeve will beat us Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Newleaf said: Maybe shteeve will beat us Saturday Why say that? Are you not enjoying watching us this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Why say that? Are you not enjoying watching us this season? Not fussed. Ok in patches Does it matter as long as others are for now ! Still going to most games as I’m a Derby fan who wants us to win every game as I did at Bolton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Newleaf said: What did we need against Rotherham and Bolton then. Not Jacob Bitter-balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Newleaf said: Holmes is a winger 3 hours ago, cannable said: Evans is a DM I'm sure these boys will be happy to play wherever they're told to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Parsnip said: I'm sure these boys will be happy to play wherever they're told to play. Do you think they could play anywhere then . Blimey that’s ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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