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Max Lowe - joined Aberdeen on loan, now back at PP but back to Aberdeen

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8 minutes ago, caymanram said:

Thing is though, that he is only being touted by Aberdeen as ‘back up’. If he goes we need real guarantees of game time.....otherwise the move is pointless.

Thing is though, it doesn’t mention anywhere in the article that he is going as back-up, and the comments made are by a click-bait journalist and not Aberdeen (or Derby). Otherwise you have a very sound base to view this as a potentially pointless move.

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1 hour ago, Ambitious said:

No mate, he's going to Aberdeen in the SPL, not Atherstone Town of the Midland Counties division 1. 

I can see why you would get them mixed up though. 

Come back to me when Atherstone Town have faced a striking prodigy such as Conor Sammon, mate. Max Lowe will face challenge after challenge, there's nothing harder than trying to read where an attacker is going to put the ball when the attacker doesn't even know himself. 

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3 hours ago, KCG said:

I see him as a very good left-sided midfield prospect and not as a left-back because he isn't a natural defender. Sometimes players get shoe-horned to play in positions they are not suited to. it's a waste!

Absolutely. Hopefully they will recognise his attacking potential and play him on the wing up there.

He has a great first touch, beats his man well, has bags of pace and can put in a wicked cross.

From what I have seen, his marking and positional sense isn't great, and he's weak in the tackle.

We have a resurgent Forsyth and Malone here battling out for that spot, with Olsson still to get fit and the possibility of Tomori covering there if there is a real crisis. 

First team football would do him good.

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I'll be honest, I haven't seen much at all wrong with Max Lowe in the few games he's played for us. I don't buy that he's a poor defender. I don't think his positioning or marking is at all bad. When he played against Wolves, he was first to absolutely everything. In fact, it was one of the most impressive individual performances I'd seen in a long, long time. 

After being our best player in pre-season, he rightly started the season and he was impacted in being in a couple of nervy performances as was the rest of the team. I don't think he was anywhere near close to being one of the worst offenders, though. 

I would say he's not that great in the air, although you should really make allowances for that. An example being Davies picking up Reading's striker for their goal - not Lowe. Again, it just comes down to a bit of disconnect in a new system and a new feel defence. 

Forsyth has earned the right to play, at the right time. I would guess it would have been him going otherwise, not Lowe. Lowe is just very unlucky & should do really well in the pub league. 

 

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41 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

I'll be honest, I haven't seen much at all wrong with Max Lowe in the few games he's played for us. I don't buy that he's a poor defender. I don't think his positioning or marking is at all bad. When he played against Wolves, he was first to absolutely everything. In fact, it was one of the most impressive individual performances I'd seen in a long, long time. 

After being our best player in pre-season, he rightly started the season and he was impacted in being in a couple of nervy performances as was the rest of the team. I don't think he was anywhere near close to being one of the worst offenders, though. 

I would say he's not that great in the air, although you should really make allowances for that. An example being Davies picking up Reading's striker for their goal - not Lowe. Again, it just comes down to a bit of disconnect in a new system and a new feel defence. 

Forsyth has earned the right to play, at the right time. I would guess it would have been him going otherwise, not Lowe. Lowe is just very unlucky & should do really well in the pub league. 

 

He ran past a few disinterested Wolves players in a friendly. I was excited too, but when you boil it all down, that was what happened.

Even in that Wolves game, he was trying a few weird passes with the outside of his foot that looked good because they came off, but if he tried it in a competitive game when the opposition are that yard closer, he could have put his team-mates in a lot of trouble.

Agree that others have made worse mistakes, but those have been flashes of bizarre behaviour from experienced individuals. Lowe’s lapses, bar Leeds, haven’t really cost us anything but it’s the nature of them that concerns me - things like passing to a winger under pressure and then running on expecting an unrealistic return pass, playing to opposition players blind, overlapping at the wrong moment and being caught out of position defensively.

I know he’s had injuries, but he’s 21. That’s not that young. Not sure he should still be learning the basics of the position in his early twenties. Compare it to Bogle, and there’s night and day difference in terms of nouse as a full back, and Bogle has three years on him.

We all want to happen with Lowe, because he’s one of our own and he’s really exciting on the ball. Think there’s an exciting Championsip wide player there, but as a left-back, when everyone is fit, he’s 4th choice for me.

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Can see the reasoning behind this one with us having three left backs, but I was rather hoping that he might push in to be part of the first team this season. A resurgent Forsyth has put bed to this for now, but I can’t help but worry whether he’ll return to type, in which case Lowe will almost certainly become the better option. Suppose you can’t be covering all bases quite that much and restricting lowes progress though so a loan spell probably is the best option for him. Still has massive potential imo so good to see him going to a high level, hopefully he plays and gets them inexperience mistakes out the way and returns a more reliable player, because he certainly already has the footballing ability.

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1 hour ago, Duracell said:

He ran past a few disinterested Wolves players in a friendly. I was excited too, but when you boil it all down, that was what happened.

Even in that Wolves game, he was trying a few weird passes with the outside of his foot that looked good because they came off, but if he tried it in a competitive game when the opposition are that yard closer, he could have put his team-mates in a lot of trouble.

Agree that others have made worse mistakes, but those have been flashes of bizarre behaviour from experienced individuals. Lowe’s lapses, bar Leeds, haven’t really cost us anything but it’s the nature of them that concerns me - things like passing to a winger under pressure and then running on expecting an unrealistic return pass, playing to opposition players blind, overlapping at the wrong moment and being caught out of position defensively.

I know he’s had injuries, but he’s 21. That’s not that young. Not sure he should still be learning the basics of the position in his early twenties. Compare it to Bogle, and there’s night and day difference in terms of nouse as a full back, and Bogle has three years on him.

We all want to happen with Lowe, because he’s one of our own and he’s really exciting on the ball. Think there’s an exciting Championsip wide player there, but as a left-back, when everyone is fit, he’s 4th choice for me.

Shrews manager Hurst last season moved a centre back to left back to cover injuries, and left Max on the bench.

Says a lot looking back.

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The more I think about it the more it sounds like a good move.

I dont think anyone would disagree that he has talent and all the athleticism to be a good player. 

The bit thats missing is hard game time and mentally tough experiences. 

At Aberdeen he will go from playing in front of 3k at Hamilton and Livingston on plastic pitches to 60k full houses at Parkhead and Ibrox. Those 2 away games will certainly test him mentally because he will be going there with a team expecting to take points. 

He'll also experience full houses at Tynecastle and Easter Road which can nasty places to visit. 

At Aberdeen, he will be playing for a club expecting semi final places as a minimum in both cups and that will be a new challange for him.  

All in all, he will be completely out of his comfort zone, and it may well be the making of him.

 

 

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Given Fozzy’s apparent return to form (although still a bit early to know for certain), Lowe will be 3rd choice. He’s been unlucky, played well v reading - goal was inexperience against bodvarsson who is as good as anyone in the air in this league, he didn’t do much wrong. He had a poor game against Leeds but lots did.

He is quality but needs to play games. I would only Loan him until Jan then re-assess. This guy will be Derby’s future first choice left back. 

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