DavesaRam Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Just now, TuffLuff said: Leeds will be good when you let them be. But I actually thought when we were chasing down and putting them under pressure they soon become pretty average. As I saw it, play tight and get at their defence and that would possibly hold the key to it as the did not look comfortable when they had no room and would start punting it. So yeah, good but not unbeatable. We just played them at a poor time for us. Once the league settled and one or two teams starting picking up their play I think they’ll start dropping points Their keepr was known to be a bit suspect, and our only attempt on goal proved this when Lawrence scored from that free-kick. But that was the only time he had a direct shot to save. Why on earth we didn't have more long distance pops at him I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Thought both teams were pretty much even first half despite us being 1-2 down. 2nd half they took their chances. We were ineffective in final 1/4 of pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 It was just a defeat. Don't make more of it than it was. You don't get to suddenly decide you want to pass teams off the park and smash this league. We're building here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanoakaram4life Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 The problem today was that we went too gung ho! Leeds easily picked us off on the counter. Were trying to play like Liverpool without a natural holding midfielder with legs. Ledley was dreadful, and you'd expect better for a player of his experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 And we had chances to level the score numerous times. So although they were better and certainly built more for purpose... We weren't total trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, DavesaRam said: Their keepr was known to be a bit suspect, and our only attempt on goal proved this when Lawrence scored from that free-kick. But that was the only time he had a direct shot to save. Why on earth we didn't have more long distance pops at him I have no idea. Not sure, one of the things I really enjoyed last week was our willingness to shoot from outside the box a bit more. If nothing else it starts pulling defenders out a bit more. We didn’t get the attacking right today, which in contrary to what I just said, was partly because Leeds defended well overall in closing gaps, but also we kept making the wrong decisions. Passing when they could have gone themselves or being greedy when others were in better decisions. Hopefully it’s teething problems but it felt like we panicked going forward today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 31 minutes ago, Ellafella said: I can’t remember seeing a side as good as Leeds at Pride Park in the last 5 years. I missed the first game of last season when wolves played us off the park apparently. So Leeds were certainly the best team I have seen at PP in the last fifteen months at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Leeds were amazing but, we couldn’t cope with them defensively. Out own system hampered us going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, PistoldPete2 said: I missed the first game of last season when wolves played us off the park apparently. So Leeds were certainly the best team I have seen at PP in the last fifteen months at least. Wolves were a lot better , we just didn't play so poorly . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Wolves were a lot better , we just didn't play so poorly . Absolutely not. Leeds at times were ridiculous. I have NEVER seen football of this standard before in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I was strangely encouraged. Leeds were excellent and I mean excellent. We are work in progress. The new lad at the back has to keep his place. Malone will be an improvement at left back, Ledley on the bench at best with Huddlestone in the holding roll. Josefzoon deserves to start. I like what Frank is trying to implement and pretty soon it will work. He is a winner and we will soon get there. Up The Rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyWanKenobi Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 It's a steep learning curve for Frank. After Reading there were clearly problems, but do you make changes, or do you stick with a winning team where you can? I'm of the belief that you fix problems as you see them, but many would say you don't change a winning side. Whatever your opinions, I hope we see most of the new guys and a strong side, with a different attitude on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GadFly Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Gritters said: I’m tits off that every free kick we had a Leeds player stood on the ball preventing us taking a quick free kick forward which completely worked against any advantage that free kick may have given us. The ref allowed Leeds to do this all through the game then in time added on he decided to book their player for doing this. Why did the ref bother booking him? Yeah that's why we lost 4-1 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, GadFly said: Yeah that's why we lost 4-1 ?? You never know. A quick free kick at 1-1 we score = different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Leeds simply worked harder, reacted quicker and always had options when in possession.They also look like a side that has had a lot of repetition training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 25 minutes ago, cannable said: Absolutely not. Leeds at times were ridiculous. I have NEVER seen football of this standard before in the Championship. Have you not. Didn't watch us much in 13/14 then . One passage of play with no closing down doesn't make a great team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanoakaram4life Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Leeds weren't that good, we pressed too much and they hit us on the counter, they were clinical.... End of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Have you not. Didn't watch us much in 13/14 then . One passage of play with no closing down doesn't make a great team We never beat a press like that under Mac 1, and really? “No closing down”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, cannable said: We never beat a press like that under Mac 1, and really? “No closing down”? Couldn't see a deal . We played better football than that under McLaren 1 . Just my opinion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I thought Leeds were very good. They played at a high tempo throughout. Broke on us quickly. They were very direct. It was impressive. Saiz is quality. They have some typical Leeds scumbags like berardi and alioski which means they can scrap too. i thought we matched them for an hour even though there were some flaws in our pressing, and we were careless in possession at times. It was a tremendous game for a while. 100mph. End to end. ledley just couldn't keep up with the sheer physical intensity of it but i doubt whether huddlestone would have been much better. Their third goal was the killer. No doubt we could have defended better for all the goals. The fourth exposed Max Lowe who seems not to have a natural defenders instinct for spotting danger. But there were some positives too. Tomori was a bit of a revelation at centre back. Much better than Pearce. Josefzoon showed some trickery. Despite the comments from others i thought waghorn improved us and played quite well. Unfortunately we were too spread out to link effectively across midfield. If anything this game exposed us as being slightly weak in central midfield. Mount and wilson seemed to fade. We won't meet another Leeds. Keep calm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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