Bob The Badger Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 It *seems* to me that Derby have more transfers going out that are not disclosed than most other clubs. Anybody know why this may be? Or even why it's done in the first place? The only reason I can come up with is that they don't want the supporters kicking off because it's too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Country Ram Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Or they don’t want clubs who we are buying off to know how much we have to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 From a Guardian article in 2013 Quote The term is a perennial transfer window anticlimax: a well-trodden exercise in public relations, serving only to protect the agents, chairmen and directors of football. Put simply, an undisclosed transfer is designed to save face. Whether buying or selling, clubs need to be seen to be getting the best value for money and if there is even the smallest inkling that the sale or purchase price of a player for either of the two clubs might incur the wrath of either set of supporters, an undisclosed fire blanket is thrown over the top of the deal. Only when a club is happy with the fee will an official figure be announced, which amounted to 110, or 4.35%, of the permanent transfers this summer. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/sep/04/undisclosed-fee-transfer-window-deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Black Country Ram said: Or they don’t want clubs who we are buying off to know how much we have to spend. This! Also the reason why the Peterborough owner rubbished the amounts bandied around regarding how much Derby had put down on Marriott. His next purchase will be effected if the club knew he actually got 5 million. (Factious figure btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, Boycie said: This! Also the reason why the Peterborough owner rubbished the amounts bandied around regarding how much Derby had put down on Marriott. His next purchase will be effected if the club knew he actually got 5 million. (Factious figure btw) Factious as in true? Or fictitious as in made up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, reveldevil said: Factious as in true? Or fictitious as in made up? Google it if yer that bothered. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, Black Country Ram said: Or they don’t want clubs who we are buying off to know how much we have to spend. That makes zero sense. If Derby got less than people are suggesting, then you announce it so as to stop other teams with players we want inflating their prices. And Burnley announce it to their fans because they look smart. And if it's more, then Derby want to tell their fans to soothe any discontent and look shrewd and Burnley couldn't give a flying duck because they're in the Premier and another couple of million spent isn't going to bother anybody. So what's Plan B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, Boycie said: Google it if yer that bothered. ?? Ok. I didn't even fink it was a word, but now I wonder if you're trying to divide the fanbase with your figure. You factious bas'tard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, reveldevil said: Ok. I didn't even fink it was a word, but now I wonder if you're trying to divide the fanbase with your figure. You factious bas'tard. Who’s the daddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Country Ram Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 14 hours ago, Bob The Badger said: That makes zero sense. If Derby got less than people are suggesting, then you announce it so as to stop other teams with players we want inflating their prices. And Burnley announce it to their fans because they look smart. And if it's more, then Derby want to tell their fans to soothe any discontent and look shrewd and Burnley couldn't give a flying duck because they're in the Premier and another couple of million spent isn't going to bother anybody. So what's Plan B? It makes perfect sense. Why would we do that when we were clearly in the market for replacements? I hear what you're saying regarding soothing discontent but I think they'd rather keep their cards close to their chest to limit inflation of the price of our targets. After all, with the current buzz around the club, I don't think them not disclosing the Vydra fee is going to make fans stay away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 15 hours ago, reveldevil said: Factious as in true? Or fictitious as in made up? Or fractious figure in that it would cause trouble. Or fatuous figure in order to massage the ego of a club chairman. ??️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 16 hours ago, Bob The Badger said: It *seems* to me that Derby have more transfers going out that are not disclosed than most other clubs. Really? Which transfers have been fully disclosed in the Championship this season? I can only think of Tom Ince to Stoke that's it. Undisclosed has been standard for a number of years now for a large percentage of transfers, this isn't just a Derby thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 It's no more a "Derby thing" than anywhere else. As quoted on this thread: "Only when a club is happy with the fee will an official figure be announced, which amounted to 110, or 4.35%, of the permanent transfers this summer." I disagree with the first part: "Only when a club is happy will an official figure be announced" should read... "Only when BOTH clubs are happy to disclose the fee will an official figure be announced" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Not one fee has been disclosed in the Premier League this summer https://www.premierleague.com/transfers/summer/2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Actually and frustratingly it’s none of our business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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