Alph Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Millenniumram said: He’s not a winger, he’s not crap, he’s a number 10. We’ll never see the best of him where he is at the moment. He’d still be a greedy and selfish tackle dodging Ronaldo wannabe. I felt like I might be won over by him in pre season but now the season has started.... nah. A goal here and there doesn’t make up for all the opportunities we build as a team and he wastes because his stupid head is stuck to his chest again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Just now, Kernow said: Goals: 1 Goals this season: 2 Derby players with more goals: None Nobody was brilliant tonight. You fire these stats at us but with the most important stats, he's had a pretty good start to the season. Try not to shoot him down and make a scapegoat of him when he wasn't even the worst player on the pitch. I don't recall seeing any comments regarding his finish tonight, or the header last week. If you're only going to post when things aren't so rosie, why bother? He was the worst player on the pitch though, especially on the ball. Wisdom was also utter crap. The guy only managed 62% off his passes. I only ever say him pass it successfully back to Carson. Every other pass was a gift to the opposition. And he takes an age to react, on and off the ball, too. He's another who is crap, at RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 The only positive is that our deficiencies have been brutally exposed before the loan window shuts. We're still a couple of players short. Depends on what the real aim is for this season. If it's not promotion, just better football than last year then fair enough. We might do that. I doubt we'll play many sides as good as Leeds this season so the defence will rarely as tested and exposed as they were today. That being said, if the aim IS promotion, then we need to have a look at loaning a few more players, because today's defence, coupled with today's defensive midfield, aren't good enough for the better sides in the division. Very disappointing, but not the end of the world. I'm off to get smashed now. Night all. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 It’s a Jim Smith Tranmere 5 Derby 1 moment ....I hope. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Win, lose or draw there will be things to learn. Today we were beaten by a better team. Hopefully FL and his team will now look at what needs to be done to improve. COYR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofmidnight Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Tom Lawrence stats for those interested. Dispossessed: 6 times (the most on the pitch) Unsuccessful touches: 5 (the most on the pitch) Pass completion rate: 66.7% (one of the worst on the pitch) Take-ons: Zero Tackles: Zero Interceptions: Zero Crap, crap, crap. But he did score the goal! He clearly has potential and obviously Frank sees something in it. Leeds are an excellent team and Derby had several opportunities but failed to capitalize on them. We are a work in progress and will improve. Let's not criticize these youngsters. Keep the faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Just now, Dappled Ram said: But he did score the goal! He clearly has potential and obviously Frank sees something in it. Leeds are an excellent team and Derby had several opportunities but failed to capitalize on them. We are a work in progress and will improve. Let's not criticize these youngsters. Keep the faith. He scored a spawny freekick that the GK should have saved. That doesn't make up for a truely woeful display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper2 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Just now, PistoldPete2 said: Bizarre game. Could have been 5-5 draw. Leeds very clinical finishing Derby not t. Don't talk poo, we were played off the park. Championship hasn't had such a style before. It's great to watch, but not today for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 You can tell he’s absolutely worked those Leeds players to death. Everyone knew their roles If they can sustain that for a season is another matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kernow said: Goals: 1 Goals this season: 2 Derby players with more goals: None Nobody was brilliant tonight. You fire these stats at us but with the most important stats, he's had a pretty good start to the season. Try not to shoot him down and make a scapegoat of him when he wasn't even the worst player on the pitch. I don't recall seeing any comments regarding his finish tonight, or the header last week. If you're only going to post when things aren't so rosie, why bother? Right, so the fact he has wasted endless opportunities, keeps getting us turned around, passes people into trouble and dodges every tackle is completely ok because the only stat that matters is goals? He’s been rubbish. He was rubbish for 93 mins last week and 94 mins this week. If you think that has no negative contribution to the result because he scored then I couldn’t disagree more. He’s not entirely at fault of course. Lowe was poor, Wisdom was poor again, Keogh again and Bryson pretty pointless. If you can’t recall comments on his finish last week then you can go back into the match thread v Reading. They are there. Because he was poor last week. dribbledribbledribbledribbledribbledribble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, PistoldPete2 said: Bizarre game. Could have been 5-5 draw. Leeds very clinical finishing Derby not t. Not sure what game you were watching but Derby didn't have nearly enough decent chance to score 5. Reckon 2:5 would have been a fairer reflection. Having said that, I'm not slashing my wrists. It's going to take time to get the balance and performances right, there are more new players to come in and we came across an outstanding Leeds team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Controversial opinion but too many fan favourites likes Wisdom, Keogh and Bryson are no longer good enough I’m afraid. ESPECIALLY Bryson who was chasing shadows again. Meanwhile, Imagine being Scott CArson, you’ve got no chance with that defence in front of you no matter how many great saves you pull off. Wilson and Lawrence can’t play in the same team. It’s either one then Jozefzoon on the other side, said it before and today makes it more clear to me. Waghorn looks like a dud, but he can say that he didn’t train much so that’s his excuse. Ledley was awful again but he’s got an excuse with his injury. Huddlestone’s composure was really missing today. I didn’t expect us to get into the top 6 before this season to be honest, last year should have been the rebuilding the season but this year appears to be that requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I don’t like losing 4 - 1 but I think we made them look better than they are. We gifted them at least 3 goals. We can give the ball away while going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 If you watched Leeds v Stoke you knew this - STOP SAIS OR LOSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Just now, SuperDerbySuperRams said: You can tell he’s absolutely worked those Leeds players to death. Everyone knew their roles If they can sustain that for a season is another matter They're going to be a force at Elland Road. On the road, they may struggle against solid, defensive teams who can bully them. They look quite small in stature, so a team who can work set-pieces against them may find some luck. I'd back a Karanka side to nullify them. Boro would too at the Riverside. But most Championship stadiums are great now with fabulous playing surfaces. It certainly helps teams that like to get the ball down and move it. Also helps when playing against tactically naive teams who are so open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Leeds are everything I wish we were. Bielsa's done a great job there. As for us, even as a Keogh fan, he was an absolute shambles today. Max Lowe isn't a defender. He loses every single back post header and has awful positioning. Malone needed for the next game. Lawrence is far too greedy, he never offloads the ball quick enough, if he had we'd have had much more opportunities. Mount is pushed too high, and his finishing was woeful. On the bright side, I thought Waghorn looked bright, although he was clearly getting frustrated at the end, and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Anyway, good game for neutrals. Positives to take away and they were the better side. No crisis but learning plenty about the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, PistoldPete2 said: Bizarre game. Could have been 5-5 draw. Leeds very clinical finishing Derby not t. Where do we have 5 chances....?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezzeetiger Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Andicis said: Leeds are everything I wish we were. On the bright side, I thought Waghorn looked bright, although he was clearly getting frustrated at the end, and rightly so. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofmidnight Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I can't believe some of the negativity here. These players have not been together long and are young. Leeds quite clearly are an outstanding team. I'm not going down the doom and gloom route at this stage. Give the team time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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