Warren Hobhead Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Papahet said: TBF hes had a hard time since 2016. Arrested at his own party over a mate biting his missus toe, think she binned him soon after that. How many mangerial chances has he had since Clement signed him? Wasnt a bad player in his first season here. Constantly played in deeper roles, (hes an advanced playmaker). Quality during his Barnsley and Huddersfield spells. GRs style didnt suit a Hughes or Butterfield type. Weds ditched Carvalhol so was soon out the side. Not had much luck if you ask me Think that arrest story in The Sun turned out to be nonsense. He certainly married his long time girlfriend soon after. In fairness he doesn’t seem to do social media anymore, probably because of the stick he was getting. Shame, as I like to be nosey with our players. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I'd like to see a Rams TV interview with him. Give him chance to explain his situation and bring closure to any festering situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Type of people to get upset by his comments are the type of people who are too thick to read his interview in context and just go by what their drunk pal said to them about it at the ground... Honestly TOUGHEN UP you snowflakes ? Never criticised the club, or our players. He rightly admitted the manager's style of play wasn't suited to him and that he wouldn't sit on the bench. duck me if I was a technically gifted player and Rowett was my manager I'd be gutted. The moron eased Hughes out of the side during the end of that season he arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Didn’t Frank get a lot of abuse off his own fans at West Ham? Maybe, as Frank has stated that he wants to be an approachable manager, he can get advice that will put him in good stead and he can become an important player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 53 minutes ago, Papahet said: iTBF hes had a hard time since 2016. Arrested at his own party over a mate biting his missus toe, think she binned him soon after that. How many mangerial chances has he had since Clement signed him? Wasnt a bad player in his first season here. Constantly played in deeper roles, (hes an advanced playmaker). Quality during his Barnsley and Huddersfield spells. GRs style didnt suit a Hughes or Butterfield type. Weds ditched Carvalhol so was soon out the side. Not had much luck if you ask me Saw Butterfield out in Leeds the other night with his missus - she's heavily pregnant so assume they're getting on now! I rate Butterfield, think he's technically gifted, has a good range of passing & can create chances. Plenty of players have turned it around at Derby & Lampard's style of play would seem to suit him - all depends whether he's up for the challenge. Seem to recall bit of stick he got towards the tail end of 16/17 culminating in him equalising against Huddersfield & then cupping his ear to the South Stand - some may have interpreted his comments about wanting to join Wednesday permanently as more of a comment on them rather than just wanting to escape Rowett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I never heard no boo mate not once but I think it what he said about derby fans how he joined a bigger club with better fans I think thats what hacked off other derby fans off and how he wanted join shiffield wednesday permeantley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, B4ev6is said: I never heard no boo mate not once but I think it what he said about derby fans how he joined a bigger club with better fans I think thats what hacked off other derby fans off and how he wanted join shiffield wednesday permeantley. But he didn't say that though, did he? As I remember it, he simply suggested Sheffield Wednesday play a style that better suits his game so it's a good move for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 He did mate but them delected the tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Papahet said: Constantly played in deeper roles, (hes an advanced playmaker). I’d argue the opposite. In his very first interview he stated words to the affect of; “I want to control games and be the one making the most passes on the pitch.” In fact, his very best performance for us was deep when he ran the show against Wolves. He’s constantly been played as a number #8 which is why he looks slow, ponderous and negative because he isn’t particularly energetic and wants to slow the game down to his level. I think the midfield rotations yesterday may just prolong his Derby career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 19 hours ago, clarkeram7 said: After his performances and what he said he deserved it. As supports we pay enough money to boo if we feel it's warranted, I wasn't there today but with that being his first appearance since we'd let him go if have been tempted. Glad he's proved a few doubters wrong, the ability is clearly there he was if anything massively frustrating and there was a thought that we'd maybe coached some of his attacking mindedness out of him. If the boos motivate him, long may it continue ? I find the fact that you can't even write 'supporter' correctly very apt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, B4ev6is said: He did mate but them delected the tweet. Nope, I still don't believe he did. He just gave the interview to Sheffield Wednesday's local paper commenting on how their play style is better for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: I never heard no boo mate not once but I think it what he said about derby fans how he joined a bigger club with better fans I think thats what hacked off other derby fans off and how he wanted join shiffield wednesday permeantley. He didn't say that - ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: I find the fact that you can't even write 'supporter' correctly very apt. I've already done the 'thick plank of wood' gag, but feel free to repeat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, eddie said: He didn't say that - ever. https://www.theleaguepaper.com/featured/8880/butterfield-says-move-to-wednesday-was-down-to-derbys-style-of-play/ He told the Sheffield Star that: “I spoke to my agent early last week and just said Derby’s style of play was not really the way I like to play my football. “I just had a feeling that he [Rowett] wanted to play a more direct, physical style. I said I didn’t want to spend the season on the bench and my agent made some calls and I had a few options. “Initially Derby were not considering a loan but I think as deadline day went on they needed to move some players to release some funds to make signings. “I had a few options but Wednesday made their interest known on Thursday afternoon and it all happened very quickly.” That is enough to warrant booing from a section of Derby fans? Precious bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Even through I dont like him but he does desevse a 2nd chance but he played well yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMesses III Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Every pass you make Every dive you fake Any momentum you break Wish you had been taken by the snake I'll be booing you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, RAMesses III said: Every pass you make Every dive you fake Any momentum you break Wish you had been taken by the snake I'll be booing you I don't doubt it for a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesses Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Before he went to Sheffield I never booed Butterfield but was guilty of quietly swearing and sighing in exasperation every time he destroyed the forward momentum. Given a few thousand other fans were quietly swearing and sighing in exasperation at the same time it produced quite a noise on a regular basis. If he didn’t privately think back then that Derby fans were arse holes then he wouldn’t be human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, ramesses said: Before he went to Sheffield I never booed Butterfield but was guilty of quietly swearing and sighing in exasperation every time he destroyed the forward momentum. Given a few thousand other fans were quietly swearing and sighing in exasperation at the same time it produced quite a noise on a regular basis. If he didn’t privately think back then that Derby fans were arse holes then he wouldn’t be human. I expect he will leave, but if he doesn’t, and somehow he has an amazing turnaround in form, becomes a key player again scoring screamers and linking everything up, he will be adored by those who currently boo him. Nowt much fickler than a footy fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I am sure I am in the minority here but if someone wants to voice their opinion and boo anyone then screw it let them.... does it really hurt anyone..? I’m 100% sure when Butterfield got home last night he didn’t give it a second thought and neither would I, I would just check my bank balance and laugh my head off.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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