sage Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 On 05/07/2018 at 19:36, MuespachRam said: The whole event is full of people taking blame where they shouldn't have to and people not taking any responsibility for their actions at all. I hear all this "justice" talk, but does anyone actually want "justice" or do they just want a big pay out..? Yes they wanted to stop being blamed and for the truth to come out. The report is out having considered all the facts. Or we can blame people based on Sun articles and proven cover ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 On 05/07/2018 at 19:36, MuespachRam said: The whole event is full of people taking blame where they shouldn't have to and people not taking any responsibility for their actions at all. I hear all this "justice" talk, but does anyone actually want "justice" or do they just want a big pay out..? Please stop reading the sun. It was and has been a cover up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Norman Bettison as all charges dropped by the Crown Prosecution. Amazing what the right handshake can achive. I wonder how much compensation along with a nice pension he'll be getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 On 06/07/2018 at 23:40, sage said: Yes they wanted to stop being blamed and for the truth to come out. The report is out having considered all the facts. Or we can blame people based on Sun articles and proven cover ups. Don’t listen to him. He hasn’t a rational thought in his head when it comes to the city of Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 4 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Don’t listen to him. He hasn’t a rational thought in his head when it comes to the city of Liverpool. It’s not my fault....oh sorry, that’s not my line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I'd love to hear what Bill Shankly would have to say about all this. i'm sure he would cut straight through all the crap and obfuscation and nail it totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, RamNut said: I'd love to hear what Bill Shankly would have to say about all this. i'm sure he would cut straight through all the crap and obfuscation and nail it totally. Yet didn’t he once famously say that Football isn’t about life and death it was much more important than that....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 On 03/07/2018 at 17:42, HantsRam said: awful - but there has never been any evidence of fans being there who did not have tickets. None Every scouse football fan I've ever met has freely recounted to me how they got into all the big games (semifinals and finals) without tickets, going through the turnstiles slipping over a tenner or twenty to the operative and knowing that the person on the other side is (a) happy to take the cash to supplement low wages, and (b) can't afford a holdup at their turnstile by arguing with someone that they're not going to let them through. It's part of the post-truth world to argue that Liverpool fans did not do this at Hillsborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 7 hours ago, MuespachRam said: Yet didn’t he once famously say that Football isn’t about life and death it was much more important than that....! He was the best football manager in the whole history of the game. He understood the passion of the fans and he could express himself in terrific pithy language. I'm sure he would believe that that you couldn't blame the crowd for failure to manage the crowd. I doubt whether he'd blame a single bloke on a horse either. He'd just nail it totally. he would have attacked the mentality that treated fans as scum and erected the fences in the first place. Obviously I think he was a great man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Quote I knew that the people who mattered most were the ones who came through the turnstiles. Bill Shankly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 A few news agencies running this warning today - watch what you post folks..... With the Hillsborough disaster trials due to begin on 14 January 2018, please remember The Contempt of Court Act rules on what information can be published during active trials. It is an offence to publish anything which could prejudice or impede a trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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