Cam the Ram Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Gritters said: I'm warming to Lampard if he wants to come. The problem is if he is successful he'll be off pretty quick too. My concern is his wages for an unproven manager. Talks broke down between him and Ipswich reportedly due to his wage demands. If they can afford to pay the wages of a proven, experienced manager in McCarthy but not an unproven manager in Lampard, how much must he be asking for? And with larger wages comes a larger pay off for him should things be disastrous and Mel's left with no choice but to sack him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, Cam the Ram said: My concern is his wages for an unproven manager. Talks broke down between him and Ipswich reportedly due to his wage demands. If they can afford to pay the wages of a proven, experienced manager in McCarthy but not an unproven manager in Lampard, how much must he be asking for? And with larger wages comes a larger pay off for him should things be disastrous and Mel's left with no choice but to sack him Ipswich are pretty tight with the funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, KCG said: How much would you have to bet to make it a worthwhile return? I don't think he'll be the next manager. If you don’t think he will be manager why would you bet on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Cam the Ram said: My concern is his wages for an unproven manager. Talks broke down between him and Ipswich reportedly due to his wage demands. If they can afford to pay the wages of a proven, experienced manager in McCarthy but not an unproven manager in Lampard, how much must he be asking for? And with larger wages comes a larger pay off for him should things be disastrous and Mel's left with no choice but to sack him Didn't someone say Ipswich only offered £300k pa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, ThePrisoner said: Ipswich are pretty tight with the funds. But so are we now days, apparently. It's obviously not my money so I'm not sure why I'm bothered by it, but he shouldn't be getting high level Championship manager wages just because of his name alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, Cam the Ram said: But so are we now days, apparently. It's obviously not my money so I'm not sure why I'm bothered by it, but he shouldn't be getting high level Championship manager wages just because of his name alone I believe he was offered £300k pa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Didn't someone say Ipswich only offered £300k pa. I've not seen that so not sure, but having just checked it looks like Hurst is the heavy favourite now and he'll be on tiny wages for this level, so it might make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, derbydaz22 said: It doesn’t take much money in next manager markets for bookmakers to slash prices,any bets of £25 or more will have them cutting prices and they are unlikely to take any hefty beats in my experience. I know. Hence my previous post about someone betting a fiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, eddie said: I know. Hence my previous post about someone betting a fiver. Sorry didn’t see that Eddie ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said: My concern is his wages for an unproven manager. Talks broke down between him and Ipswich reportedly due to his wage demands. If they can afford to pay the wages of a proven, experienced manager in McCarthy but not an unproven manager in Lampard, how much must he be asking for? And with larger wages comes a larger pay off for him should things be disastrous and Mel's left with no choice but to sack him Can’t be much money when a McCarthy can walk away with no job in place ,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, archied said: Can’t be much money when a McCarthy can walk away with no job in place ,,, Not quite sure he walked away, but I get your point. I seem to remember the chairman saying they didn't discuss a new contract as they both felt it was time to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said: I believe he was offered £300k pa. £300k?? Even I wouldn't get out of bed for that. Frank is footballing royalty. There's nobody in the game that doesn't respect him. There's no door he can't open. He adds huge value. Pay the man Mel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Spalding Ram Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I'd be quite happy to see Lampard take over at Derby. Mind you, I was also quite happy to see Docherty, Addison, McFarland, Todd, Gregory, Burley, Brown , Jewell, Clement and Rowett take over at Derby so don't take any bloody notice of my support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorRam84 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Obviously people have been putting bets on lampard causing the odds to be slashed, but i dont care how much you bet they wouldn't go from 20-1(ish) to 1-7 in 24 hours without someone somewhere being in the know. Especially when the 2nd fave is now at around 5-1. That's just asking people to place bets on the others and lose.. the bookies aren't daft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 24 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said: My concern is his wages for an unproven manager. Talks broke down between him and Ipswich reportedly due to his wage demands. If they can afford to pay the wages of a proven, experienced manager in McCarthy but not an unproven manager in Lampard, how much must he be asking for? And with larger wages comes a larger pay off for him should things be disastrous and Mel's left with no choice but to sack him Can’t remember who said it but apparently Ipswich offered 300k pa whilst he wanted 1m pa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Haven't read all this thread, but has Lampard had any coaching/management experience? Seems a massive gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 hours ago, archied said: If it is frank ( forget other candidates this threads not about that), how do derby fans feel about this week and the swap ? Who’s got best deal ,derby or stoke ? Great management by mel or disaster? A lot has happened in such a short space of time. I've gone from accepting Rowett for another season to being glad he's gone, then angry at him a bit, then to worrying about his replacement, to totally apathetic about who we appoint, to wanting Smith, and then back to apathy. If we get Lampard so be it. I would prefer more managerial experience, but when you think around it he will be more in touch with our players and have been more relevant in their lifetimes, and will bring something entirely different to any previous recent manager which could be just what we need, the start of a totally new chapter (well, apart from a handful of long term underachievers.) So that brings me to the other question, the fact that I seem to be able to be more positive about every other manager mentioned than Roger (AKA GR) means we have the better deal regardless. Stoke is potentially a poisoned chalice but it only takes someone like Berahino to find his level and that can make Roger's life pretty easy. On the other hand they could sulk and they could be bottom in October. I think we're a safer steady bet over all. Next summer is a milestone with regards to expiring contracts and I think there will be a very clear before and after. If any manager comes in he gets a year of working things out, and hopefully makes significant progress and gets to reap the benefits of the purge to really kick us on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatRam Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Lampard is a very clever man , on the pitch and off. Fluent in several languages and loads of qualifications. He was probably the best midfielder england have ever had. Hes obviously gonna get some pointers from harry redknapp and hes played for some of the best managers and coaching stuff on the earth also. He would of learned a few things ...i really hope we take a chance with him ,and i also hope any toxic ram fans dont turn on him 3 games in. Time to let a manager have a few seasons and build a team as firing someone every year hasnt achieved anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, TaylorRam84 said: Obviously people have been putting bets on lampard causing the odds to be slashed, but i dont care how much you bet they wouldn't go from 20-1(ish) to 1-7 in 24 hours without someone somewhere being in the know. Especially when the 2nd fave is now at around 5-1. That's just asking people to place bets on the others and lose.. the bookies aren't daft Bookmarked for gits and shiggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 hours ago, TheHomunculusLives said: Be careful what you wish for. We've just finished in the top 6 of the league - albeit with a squad that arguably should have done better and playing some pretty uninspiring football. But I'm not sure yet another change of manager is good news for us. We're crying out for someone to stick around for 3 to 4 seasons and really build something sustainable, rather than starting again every few months as we've been doing ever since Nigel Clough left. Agreed ,but not Two Shots at the moment I'm really looking forward to next season which I wasn't until he shipped out .Mind you depending on who we get my mood may change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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