cannable Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I mentioned it in a few threads but is it necessarily a disaster if Two Shots came in for Carson, Davies and Vydra? They’re our most saleable assets coming off the back of immense seasons BUT if we were to appoint a ‘footballing’ manager I don’t think any of them, bar possibly Davies, would really fit. Meanwhile other players currently labelled deadwood have shown in the past that they can function in a footballing side. In theory we’d be getting more out of our less coveted players whilst receiving a wedge for players who may not fit into a potential new system. Although if we went down the same route and sold them all I think it would be an absolute disaster ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 We should consider offers for anybody that isn't nailed down. Which should be everybody in these wishy-washy times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennington Ram Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I'd want to keep Carson (still not past it in keeper terms) but if you could get Rowett to stump up £13m+ for Vydra and £2m+ for Davies you've probably solved this season's FFP challenge in one shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kennington Ram said: I'd want to keep Carson (still not past it in keeper terms) but if you could get Rowett to stump up £13m+ for Vydra and £2m+ for Davies you've probably solved this season's FFP challenge in one shot. As much as I rate Carson he really struggles with passing it out. West Brom away gives me nightmares still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennington Ram Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, cannable said: As much as I rate Carson he really struggles with passing it out. West Brom away gives me nightmares still. Maybe, I just can't really figure out who we that's an improvement at this level without paying silly money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Everyone should be for sale as long as we get a reasonable offer. If it is going to be a period of rebuilding I'd much rather have a younger team who's value and ability will increase rather than an old team who are better, but are on much larger wages and who's value is dropping. I absolutely love Davies and think he's an ideal player to have for youngsters to learn from, but if Gary wants to pay over the odds for him feel free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Kennington Ram said: Maybe, I just can't really figure out who we that's an improvement at this level without paying silly money. Indeed. I'd much rather Rowett took the immovable object that is Hudds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I don’t think he’ll come in for Vydra, based on body language alone I think their relationship had pretty much broken down by the end. Just little stuff like when Vydra was subbed there’d be absolutely zero acknowledgement from either. Probably a case of both being professional enough to know it wasn’t in their interests to make a song and dance of it. I’d not be bothered if either of the others went really. Both very good and I love them both but I’d not care if any of our players went I don’t think. Carson is brilliant but we really should be getting big money for him if we sold and it would be a good opportunity to do so. Davies is brilliant obviously and I’d be the most opposed to him leaving but again, big earner and we could milk that ******** for plenty of cash I’d imagine. After all, he’s gone there because they’re oh so ambitious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Davies is worth more to us than what we could get for him, same goes for Carson, so unless stupid money is offered or the player wants out then there's no point selling them. Anywhere near £15m for Vydra and we should take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Davies is worth more to us than what we could get for him, same goes for Carson, so unless stupid money is offered or the player wants out then there's no point selling them. Anywhere near £15m for Vydra and we should take it. Agreed. There is no way we could buy a defender as good as Davies for the money we would get for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Indeed. I'd much rather Rowett took the immovable object that is Hudds! Hudds could flourish in a passing 433 team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just proper money please not the any offer and thier gone route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeS Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I wouldn't want to see Curtis and Carson go....but only hope that if that's the way it is, we don't take the same approach on the cash terms as we did when Will and Ince left for a poor return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, RiddingsRam said: Hudds could flourish in a passing 433 team though. I’d rather George deep. I’d not be against Hudds playing as a ball-playing CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: I'd much rather Rowett took the immovable object that is Hudds! The 'immovable object' should, in my opinion, play in the middle of a back three - with Wisdom and Forsyth either side. May have to once Davies has been sold to Stoke for a set of warm up tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 30 minutes ago, cannable said: I’d rather George deep. I’d not be against Hudds playing as a ball-playing CB That could work with the right defensive partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, RiddingsRam said: Hudds could flourish in a passing 433 team though. Would rather him flourish as ball playing CB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 The one Derby player that would be first choice in any championship side is Carson. Really hope we keep him All the others are a matter of personal opinion. I enjoy watching some of our players in purple patches but Scotty is the man. Best keeper since Poom .. easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 We are to be asset stripped..... that’s a given..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Ramarena said: Davies is worth more to us than what we could get for him, same goes for Carson, so unless stupid money is offered or the player wants out then there's no point selling them. Anywhere near £15m for Vydra and we should take it. Yes - All of this Davies is 33 now I think? Not gonna get much for him and his value around the club and on the pitch is worth £2m plus Ditto Carson but maybe he's 32 and worth more like £5m cos keepers can go on forever The big question ALWAYS is: How much would it cost to replace them? A CB of Davies quality? £5m at least - A GK of Carson's quality? How many even are there? £5m+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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