Next manager, who would you like in charge?

[Van der MoodHoover]

3 hours ago, King Kevin said:

Igor ,only because if Two Shots slagged us off when he leaves Igor would have an horse's head in his bed and he'd be wearing concrete wellies at the bottom of the Derwent .

Being nabbed by the croats sounds blooming painful in any language ?

[wixman1884]

1 minute ago, Waffle said:

Probably a horrendous suggestion and I’m prepared for the kick back:

Player/Manager Craig Bryson

hahaha. sure why not

[Bris Vegas]

11 minutes ago, Kernow said:

Out of interest, why Seedorf?

Longest spell at any club is 5 months. 52 games as a manager and 32% win rate. Without the Milan spell 4 years ago his win rate is 20%.

Because his only other two jobs were in China and at La Liga strugglers Deportivo.

He walked into Depor with the club in the bottom three, well off from 17th place and having lost their last two away games 5-0 and 7-1.

He took over a team in dire straits, yet their record since then improved. They only lost 1-0 at Atleti and 2-1 at Valencia, drew against Celta and Sevilla, beat Athletic Bilbao away. Lost 4-2 to both Villarreal and Barca but they looked decent in both games.

It’s a gamble, but to be honest I’m done with the tried and tested dinosaur crap. He can’t be any worse than Paul Jewell or Nigel Pearson. I want some unknown. I want Derby to hire a manager who will bring players in from Spain and Holland.

Yet we’ll probably get Mick McCarthy. And his two summer signings will be Robert Huth and David McGoldrick.

[Kamikaze]

2 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said:

Bar Alex Neil. That shortlist is utterly horrific. 

Carlos Carvahal should be nowhere near any list. 

Jack Ross only experience is getting St Mirren to the SPL. 

Hannes Wolf managed Stuttgart for 2 years before being sacked. 

Can't afford in our position to even entertain the idea of Ross or Wolf. 

 

Ross: getting St Mirren to the SPL and winning PFA Scotland Manager of the year.

 

Wolf didn't just manage Stuttgart for 2 years he got them promoted winning the league and also has a super successful youth pedigree with Dortmund under Klopp (winning 3 national titles from under 17 and under 19)

[NottsRam77]

17 minutes ago, Kamikaze said:

Shortlist;

 

Alex Neil

Jack Ross

Carlos Carvalhal

Hannes Wolf.

If Alex Neil gets it my season ticket goes back Royal Mail  special delivery direct to mel

[JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta]

6 minutes ago, Parsnip said:

I'm actually getting quite excited about having...

DEANO DEANO DEANO 

...ringing out around Pride Park!

I can't believe you would consider Dean Saunders. Are you mad?

[Bris Vegas]

8 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said:

Bar Alex Neil. That shortlist is utterly horrific. 

Carlos Carvahal should be nowhere near any list. 

Jack Ross only experience is getting St Mirren to the SPL. 

Hannes Wolf managed Stuttgart for 2 years before being sacked. 

Can't afford in our position to even entertain the idea of Ross or Wolf. 

Every decent manager has had a sacking along the way. You can’t use that to rule out going for one.

Hannes Wolf for instance won the Bundesliga U17 and U19 with Dortmund three years in succession.

His first job was Stuttgart and got them promoted in his first season, scoring the most goals in the league.

At the time he was sacked, Stuttgart were   above the relegation zone in the Bundesliga. The fact they went on to finish well suggests he was pretty good in the transfer market too.

At 37, he has achieved alot and is regarded as one of the best young coaches in Germany.

Your comment him being awful is pretty bizarre considering.

[Parsnip]

2 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

I can't believe you would consider Dean Saunders. Are you mad?

Noooo!!!! Wrong Dean!!!!

I'm on about Sturridge. 

[Jourdan]

58 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

Failed at every club bar Milan? He’s only been at two other clubs, one being a financially-motivated move to China and the other being Deportivo when they were 10 points adrift at the bottom of La Liga...

He’s a great shout if you want to take a risk on a young, high-profile name.

Does Mel really want to take another expensive, high profile gamble? Don't you think his experience with Clement will have made him gun-shy?

Seedorf was a fantastic player, but how will that help him managing away at Bolton on a cold, Tuesday night?

It would be a sexy, high profile appointment, one that would grab all of the headlines, and get the fans' interest. But one with no real assurances or foundations for success. Let's be honest, it would be a ticking time bomb.

Why not go for Roberto de Zerbi from Benevento? He's foreign. He has top level management experience. He encourages his teams to play positive attacking football. He managed his team to a victory at the San Siro. He salvaged some pride from a season where Benevento looked like they might not even win a game.

See, we can all make random, pie-in-the-sky suggestions. ?

[TheresOnlyWanChope]

Martin O'Neil

[Jourdan]

3 minutes ago, Davide said:

Martin O'Neil

Rowett? Lidl buck's fizz.

O'Neill? M&S buck's fizz.

An upgrade, but still buck's fizz.

Surely the next manager has to be a better stylistic fit?

[The_Sheriff]

41 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said:

Bar Alex Neil. That shortlist is utterly horrific. 

Carlos Carvahal should be nowhere near any list. 

Jack Ross only experience is getting St Mirren to the SPL. 

Hannes Wolf managed Stuttgart for 2 years before being sacked. 

Can't afford in our position to even entertain the idea of Ross or Wolf. 

Why not? 

[Duracell]

Why stop at Igor? I agree that we need to pick our next manager based on what they did in a Derby shirt as a player. That always predicts their performance as a manager. Always. Let’s take this idea further.

As someone pointed out, Stimac was an inspirational player and he was Croatian which proves he’d sign loads of inspirational Croatian players like himself.

I’ve drawn up a short list for the role, and Mel can take his pick, each and every one would be an inspired choice.

Jake Buxton.

He once carried a Marks and Sparks bag to training. This proves he would take no nonsense as a manager as demonstrates his leadership credentials.

Gregrzrzrzzrzzgggg (or however you spell it) Raziak

Remember that goal he scored against Stoke where he sort of shimmied it between both his feet and megged the keeper? That could be our game plan. He could get the players to do the shimmy thing all the time. You wouldn’t even need to pass anymore. Drawback is that I’m not sure if his English is good enough to explain the shimmy thing.

Seth Johnson

Would definitely bring clippers to his first day and shave Bradley’s head. This would instantly make Bradley play like Seth. Only surprise is we haven’t done this before.

Alberto Bueno

Olé! He looked sensational like 6 times in a 46 game season so he’d basically get us to play like Barcelona in 2010. Every player would be 4 foot 4 but it’s okay because we’d have 127 percent possession in every game.

Blessing Kaku

He was really good at drawing boos and “you’re not fit to wear the shirt” chants from the Derby crowd. A fine example of resilience. This attention he would draw would let the playing staff get on with their job, free from pressure. Derby play-off bottlers? No chance with Mr Kaku in charge.

Paul Boertien.

Did I just hear somebody say CLUB LEGEND? Yes! I did. We all did. Because we just heard the words “Paul Boertien”, a name that conjures up deep emotion in Rams fans of a certain age. Boertien’s flamboyance and charisma alone would be enough to inspire the squad to a league title, and possibly a decent cup run too. 

The Bust of Steve Bloomer

Bit of a left-field choice this one, but I love a wildcard. Downside of this one is that it’s a bust, not an actual person. However, as most of you know, he has continued to watch, helping the fight. Guiding our heroes in the black and the white. That is loyalty. Lacks understanding of the modern game but certainly could teach our strikers a thing or two!

[NottsRam77]

55 minutes ago, Waffle said:

Don’t think we could attract De Boer. 

Good job too 

surely his very ill fated tenure at crystal place shows he's not right for the English game 

ironically they were also a direct side that tried to hit on the counter and at pace... aka a much much better version Of what rowett wanted here, de boer tried to turn them into some sort of total football Ajax pass masters and failed quite spectacularly .. somehow I just can't see that working out with Bradley and fozzy either  .. can u ?? 

[Bazal77]

We need a FOOTBALL manager 

not a coach, not a snake with nice trainers, not a number 2 and not a middle aged chav in a tracksuit

I don’t know who fits the bill and if I’m honest I think we need someone who can from the bottom up revolutionise the club, embed a philosophy in the club that any future managers, player, staff, tea ladies whoever is associated with the club buys into and is accountable too. 

Please get it right this time

 

[McRainy]

21 minutes ago, Simsy said:

Why not? 

Because no one can spell his name correctly. 

And he was utterly turgid at Wednesday, after the initial bright start. 

He’s just Dave Jones in a nicer coat. 

[Bris Vegas]

38 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

Does Mel really want to take another expensive, high profile gamble? Don't you think his experience with Clement will have made him gun-shy?

Seedorf was a fantastic player, but how will that help him managing away at Bolton on a cold, Tuesday night?

It would be a sexy, high profile appointment, one that would grab all of the headlines, and get the fans' interest. But one with no real assurances or foundations for success. Let's be honest, it would be a ticking time bomb.

Why not go for Roberto de Zerbi from Benevento? He's foreign. He has top level management experience. He encourages his teams to play positive attacking football. He managed his team to a victory at the San Siro. He salvaged some pride from a season where Benevento looked like they might not even win a game.

See, we can all make random, pie-in-the-sky suggestions. ?

Did Paul Clement have contacts abroad? He coached at three big clubs, but was he really a respected character that he could count on his contacts to help him out with a few players?

Seedorf isn't just a hugely well-respected former player, he's a player who has an abundance of contacts elsewhere. He's the sort of figure who could help us acquire players who would be off the radar of most clubs at our level. That's a big advantage to have.

I don't think the tried and tested method has done us good. Bradley Johnson, Darren Bent, Jason Shackell, Jacob Butterfield, Chris Baird, Andreas Weimann, Ikechi Anya... The list of been there done it type big-wage suckers have caused more harm than good.

Of course bringing in a Seedorf type and seeing five or six Spanish or Dutch players join us is a risk. But it'll be hell of a lot more exciting than watch us spunk another 6 million and 30k a week wages on a Bradley Johnson type.

As a fan, I'd love to see us go down this route. Would Mel risk it? Probably not... But whatever Mel has done so far in terms of the footballing side, it's been one disaster after another.

He couldn't cause any more damage by taking a gamble on a foreign coach. At least we might get some value for money in terms of player purchases.

 

[Stimacked]

Firstly, what managers would see the Derby post as attractive. Many would see it as a risky one to take, because of the short time managers usually get under MM. They would be turned off also by the lack of available cash and the bloated squad. Add to this, our over expectant fanbase. High pressure post.

Manager coming in will likely be given thee same remit as Rowett supposedly had. They have to sell in order to buy. Few players now with any marketable value. Main one Likely Vydra. Not an attractive proposition for an up and coming manager, looking to succeed!!

He'll have to work with a bunch of 30 year olds, mostly past their prime, who have notoriously not done any favours for a whole bunch of different managers. Player power is still strong, they are in comfortable jobs. Although now may need to push the boat out, with their contracts running out. 

He'll find he has Lots of players on the last year's of their big fat contracts. If they haven't already played there, They will likely, already know, their chance to play in the Premier league is gone. He'll need lots of motivational skills to pick them up again for one last crack at promotion, before they are likely released. We probably won't pay them off to get them off the wage bill. 

We need someone who will bring through some young players, perhaps three or four of the current U23s. Perhaps signing three or four players with potential to bring in new energy to revitalise the team.

 

A manager who might be given the remit to finish the season comfortably in the top 10, while aiming  for a big intake of new younger players, fitting the managers passing style??? for the 2019 2020 season to challenge again while the current squad are mostly let go. 

 

 

 

[Jourdan]

2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

Did Paul Clement have contacts abroad? He coached at three big clubs, but was he really a respected character that he could count on his contacts to help him out with a few players?

Seedorf isn't just a hugely well-respected former player, he's a player who has an abundance of contacts elsewhere. He's the sort of figure who could help us acquire players who would be off the radar of most clubs at our level. That's a big advantage to have.

I don't think the tried and tested method has done us good. Bradley Johnson, Darren Bent, Jason Shackell, Jacob Butterfield, Chris Baird, Andreas Weimann, Ikechi Anya... The list of been there done it type big-wage suckers have caused more harm than good.

Of course bringing in a Seedorf type and seeing five or six Spanish or Dutch players join us is a risk. But it'll be hell of a lot more exciting than watch us spunk another 6 million and 30k a week wages on a Bradley Johnson type.

As a fan, I'd love to see us go down this route. Would Mel risk it? Probably not... But whatever Mel has done so far in terms of the footballing side, it's been one disaster after another.

He couldn't cause any more damage by taking a gamble on a foreign coach. At least we might get some value for money in terms of player purchases.

 

It has been one disaster after another...and your suggestion is Seedorf. Seedorf is the complete opposite of what we need right now.

He can walk into jobs on name value alone. So what is going to make him want to join a club like Derby?

£££££££££££££££

Something which, by all accounts, we are somewhat lacking at the moment.

The idea of a foreign coach is not a bad one, far from it, but I highly doubt we are going to cast our net that far and that wide and make such a crazy appointment.

If it's contacts we need, if it's exciting foreign players we need, Jorge Mendes is the man we need to be calling, not Seedorf.

 

[Bris Vegas]

1 hour ago, Jourdan said:

It has been one disaster after another...and your suggestion is Seedorf. Seedorf is the complete opposite of what we need right now.

He can walk into jobs on name value alone. So what is going to make him want to join a club like Derby?

£££££££££££££££

Something which, by all accounts, we are somewhat lacking at the moment.

The idea of a foreign coach is not a bad one, far from it, but I highly doubt we are going to cast our net that far and that wide and make such a crazy appointment.

If it's contacts we need, if it's exciting foreign players we need, Jorge Mendes is the man we need to be calling, not Seedorf.

 

Why is Seedorf such an unrealistic target? Gerrard has just gone to Rangers, Lampard is being linked with Ipswich, Karanka’s first job was at Boro and Stam walked into a pretty mediocre Reading side.

Seedorf joined a La Liga struggler destined to go down. He would have stayed on, but it was the owner who wanted a different direction.

Is Spain’s second tier a greater competition that the Championship? He wouldn’t have been on much at Depor.

Why wouldn’t he want to take charge of a big club in the second tier of English football with a chance of reaching the PL - the wealthiest league in the world?

Is Seedorf any crazier than the names listed above? Crazier than Carvalhal, Jos Luhukay, Ole Gunnar Solakjaer or even Edgar Davids!