Kernow Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I saw a thread on SHA (link below) about the tackle JR did yesterday which was pretty much a rugby tackle as Maghoma was breaking. What were your thoughts on the tackle? Other than the goals, it was what got the biggest applause from me yesterday. He took a yellow for the sake of the team. We were 2-0 up and he couldn’t risk them getting one back. In my opinion I thought it was an extremely clever piece of play by Russell, perfect example of taking one for the team. If it were the other way round though, I’d be furious. In the current rules, it’s a yellow, but good points are made that is a yellow really harsh enough for that kind of challenge? It’s not worth a red, but a yellow is no punishment at all compared to the play itself. https://www.smallheathalliance.com/read.php?1,2403607 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 To be fair, tripping him or to be 'safer' hacking him down (which is what a normal player would do) is far more dangerous than what JR did. That's never a red card. It's a yellow and he knew it. No-one would be saying anything about it if he'd just tripped him, but it would have been a more dangerous tackle if he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I laughed really hard when i saw it. Totally cynical and always a yellow. To be honest, it's advanced grade shirt pulling. if he'd just grabbed his shirt hard enough to stop him it'd be an uncontroversial (if blatantly cynical) yellow. It looks to me that Maghoma was just too strong but he didn't want to give it up. It's more just embarrassing for Russell than anything, no way it was dangerous enough to be a red. If, he had tried to put in a proper rugby tackle it'd look a lot different and could be constituted a red for serious foul play perhaps. Obviously if someone had done that to one of ours, i'd be apoplectic with rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 As you say the other way round i'd be furious, and it happens all the time, this looked worse as he they ended up on the ground, really no different to a shirt pull as your on the attack which we have seen numerous times this season for and against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I laughed really hard when i saw it. Totally cynical and always a yellow. To be honest, it's advanced grade shirt pulling. if he'd just grabbed his shirt hard enough to stop him it'd be an uncontroversial (if blatantly cynical) yellow. It looks to me that Maghoma was just too strong but he didn't want to give it up. It's more just embarrassing for Russell than anything, no way it was dangerous enough to be a red. If, he had tried to put in a proper rugby tackle it'd look a lot different and could be constituted a red for serious foul play perhaps. Maghoma had on multiple occasions ridden cynical trips and shirt pulls throughout the game. I think that's why Russell went to the lengths he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Got half way down and had to pack it in, whiniest bunch of fans I've ever heard. Oh this elbow, that stud rake... As for Russell's rugby tackle, very cynical but a professional foul which is a yellow according to the laws of the game? Until they're changed there's no point crying about it like they are. What a precious set of adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 One thing I used to say under Mac was we were too nice, on many occasions we would watch players dance through us, and we were screaming out for someone to make a foul and break up play. Good on Johnny taking one for the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Their fans on that forum are amongst some of the weirdest on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Learned from Gary O’Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 It’s never more than a yellow on current laws, calls for a red are embarrassing. But if I try to look at that tackle as a neutral, I’m not sure a yellow is sufficient personally. A sin bin like suggested on their forum for professional fouls sounds more reasonable. I’d have done the same if I were Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 It does seem like "vile" is their basic catch all word for anything and everything. Perhaps they've been learning it all week to try to put into sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, RadioactiveWaste said: It does seem like "vile" is their basic catch all word for anything and everything. Perhaps they've been learning it all week to try to put into sentences. They think they are saying villa, they just dont know how to spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Modern-day footballers... always ready to hit the ground to win a freekick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Is that it? Really disappointed after the build up its had! I was expecting Johnny to spear him or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd miner Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Listen youth stop going on their **** forum. They are nowt. I mean cmon second biggest city and they are useless and way they talk... well it nearly makes them scousers sound alreet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 We could have gone down to 8 men and still won this..... Smallheath group needs a re name.... Smallmindallience Yellow card and ever so funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Clear yellow too far out to be a red as didnt prevent a certain goal......i think they call it ...taking one for the team.....well done JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 The laws of the game say it's a yellow. Very like Leroy Fer's for Swansea a few days ago, when I applauded the ref for pulling out a red card. Haven't read the SHA forum but I think challenges such as this should be a red because they are a deliberate attempt to take a player out and stop the play, without even any pretence of trying to win the ball. I also appplaud Johnny for doing it and preventing a potentially dangerous buildup, but if this is allowed to go on without red cards, we might as well start rugby tackling players every game. We used the laws of the game to our advantage here, but the laws of the game should be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Red card. It was very entertaining for us but pretty disgraceful if you’re them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon the ram 2009 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Vile tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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