RadioactiveWaste Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 No, not really. A few sensible outs and select, choice ins at good value. When the project is about getting a tight knit group of hungry players committed to the cause then going "great lads, but big time charlie here is the new golden boy" might be a bit counter productive to that ethos. I dont expect big incomings anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Get a few out who don’t play, play Chris Martin more and we will be fine. Now quickly close the thread before the backlash! Besides we have big signings in Lawrence. The match day squad is nicely balanced currently, just needs using a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I agree with most that the focus of this window should really be on moving players out, not in. We need to significantly decrease our already inflated wage-bill, if possible, and I wouldn't be surprised to see players such as Anya, Shackell, Bent, Hanson and Olsson all go. In saying that though, I would like to see Derby add some quality in one or two areas, if we can. An extra wideman would be my priority. Someone who can offer quality on the right. I'd like to see us take a gamble on someone like Marcus Maddison, as he clearly has a lot of flair and skill, but wouldn't demand such a crazy fee. I'd also like to see us add a young centre-half. If Shackell goes, and Pearce potentially goes in the summer, then we'll be in need of a new defender, and with Keogh and Davies both being over 30, it would be nice to see an understudy come in this month. Additionally, if Bent goes, as well as potentially letting Chris Martin go (if rumours are to be believed), then there might be room for a new striker. Again, with the focus of this window being on balancing books/managing finances better, I'd really like to see us take a gamble on a young promising forward from the lower leagues. I really like the look of Devante Cole from Fleetwood Town, and I think his strengths would fit our playing style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 hours ago, curtains said: I see both Martin and Bent going in January and Shackell and Anya. No-one will be going anywhere unless someone wants them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 38 minutes ago, PodgeyRam said: Which is very disingenuous when you think about it because I distinctly remember Martin scoring against Reading last month. Spot on. May not have altered the result of the game but was deffo a Martin goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Another center back, and a tough tackling midfielder would do it for me, think we still need that bit more competition. The only thing is they have to be better than what we already have! So doubt we can do it for a reasonable price. Shackell, Anya, Bent and poss Olsen to equal it out a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, DesertRam said: Another center back, and a tough tackling midfielder would do it for me, think we still need that bit more competition. The only thing is they have to be better than what we already have! So doubt we can do it for a reasonable price. Shackell, Anya, Bent and poss Olsen to equal it out a bit. Centre back? How come? I think we are overloaded with options as Pearce, Baird, Shackell and even Wisdom can play there and that doesn't even include youngsters! Meanwhile, those two at the starting line up is keeping a clean sheet after another and are usually fit to play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffle Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Ted Bishop from Ipswich is in the last year of his contract. Good age and a regular in a similar styled side to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 23 hours ago, i-Ram said: I understand the point you make. A loan might make sense though IF we are up against FFP in terms of spending cap at the present time, or Rowett is otherwise unable to buy his ideal choice until the Summer. In terms of his fitness l think it would be ill-judged to use his recent game time in Liverpool’s first team as the overriding stat. Not going to be easy for him as 5th or 6th choice to get game time. Not a Klopp signing, and not really a good fit in their system. IF he is fit, and available for 6 months, l think he could be a very useful addition to the squad. Ings looked awful and unfit when he played against the under 23s, although that was 2 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 We're too dependent on vydra, and the wingers seem to have faded away. we can either grin and bear it or do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrm14 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, RamNut said: We're too dependent on vydra, and the wingers seem to have faded away. we can either grin and bear it or do something about it. We've scored 9 in the last 5. Of which Vydra has scored 2, the same amount as Weimann, Russell and Nugent, with Lawrence getting the last goal. How is that 'too dependent on Vydra'? Also Lawrence has been injured, Weimann has been on excellent form and Russell has been great when he's come on. They've also been responsible for scoring 5 of our last 9 goals, along with assisting the majority of the others. How have our wingers faded away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 21 minutes ago, lrm14 said: We've scored 9 in the last 5. Of which Vydra has scored 2, the same amount as Weimann, Russell and Nugent, with Lawrence getting the last goal. How is that 'too dependent on Vydra'? Also Lawrence has been injured, Weimann has been on excellent form and Russell has been great when he's come on. They've also been responsible for scoring 5 of our last 9 goals, along with assisting the majority of the others. How have our wingers faded away? Too dependent on vydra in terms of there is no other option to play that role. johnno? Lawrence? Russell? Thorne? Not really Weimann has been good - agreed. Johnno is currently preferred to lawrence who is achieving very little. Johnson is a crash bang wallop kind of a midfield player. hasn't got the pace to join in the vydra, weimann, nugent attacks. Russell is certainly better from the bench. Not good enough to hold down a first team place. had a great chance to make it 4-0 v millwall and put the ball out of the ground which he seemed to think was funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 hours ago, RamNut said: We're too dependent on vydra, and the wingers seem to have faded away. we can either grin and bear it or do something about it. absolute nonsense. I think youve just awoken from a deep sleep and you are somehow confusing Vydra with Ince from this time last year. When Derby could not score at all unless Ince scored an individual effort. i for one, am more than happy with Nugent, Weimann, bradley Johnson, johnny russells contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, jagerbob said: absolute nonsense. I think youve just awoken from a deep sleep and you are somehow confusing Vydra with Ince from this time last year. When Derby could not score at all unless Ince scored an individual effort. i for one, am more than happy with Nugent, Weimann, bradley Johnson, johnny russells contribution. So if you want to rest vydra, who would play in that role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Not for me thanks, if we get a new forward he needs to offer something very different to what we have now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 42 minutes ago, RamNut said: So if you want to rest vydra, who would play in that role? Could play Lawrence in there? Showed against Fulham he has the trickery to create in the middle. Thing is though if you boil it down we basically play 4-4-2. Just one of the strikers likes to drop back and play in the space. Nugent could quite easily play that role then up top we have Martin, Winnall or even for a last resor Bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 hours ago, Waffle said: Ted Bishop from Ipswich is in the last year of his contract. Good age and a regular in a similar styled side to us Ye gods....are we similar now to a Big Mick outfit? Fetch my noose!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffle Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, HantsRam said: Ye gods....are we similar now to a Big Mick outfit? Fetch my noose!! I meant formation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 24 minutes ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: Could play Lawrence in there? Showed against Fulham he has the trickery to create in the middle. Thing is though if you boil it down we basically play 4-4-2. Just one of the strikers likes to drop back and play in the space. Nugent could quite easily play that role then up top we have Martin, Winnall or even for a last resor Bent. You could try lawrence but we have 5 players covering 3 positions, so one extra wouldn't go amiss. Nugent was asked to play that role in a home game where winnall was up front - i'd have to look it up - and basically refused. He played his normal game much to winnall's frustration. Martin hasn't really got the mobility and pace. Bent is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Waffle said: Ted Bishop from Ipswich is in the last year of his contract. Good age and a regular in a similar styled side to us Is out for the season with a hamstring injury that he needs surgery on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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