DarkFruitsRam7 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 With the return of George Thorne and the success of Tom Huddlestone in recent weeks, GR has the tough task of deciding who to select to play next to Joe Ledley (assuming that Ledley will always play). Thorne looked good against Burton, gaining himself a place in the EFL team of the week and not appearing to be lacking any fitness. I would argue that he is Derby's, and arguably the league's, most complete player. He has it all: passing, touch, tackling, strength, the ability to surge through the middle, with or without the ball, and the knack of scoring the odd belter. For me, a fit George Thorne starts every week, no questions asked. However, we all know Thorne can succumb to niggles if too much is demanded of him. Plus, after a slow start, Huddlestone has been a lot better lately and was fantastic on Saturday. He's probably got a better passing range than Thorne and it would be very harsh to drop him after his performance at Barnsley. I believe Rowett will stick with Huddlestone for the Villa game, and will continue to stick with him if he plays well. However, I do think he'll rotate when we have three games in a week (I'm looking at the Christmas period), and those games would be Thorne's chance to impress. Regardless of who you prefer, it's great that there's even a debate about who should be starting in the middle. In recent years, we've been in a desperate rush to get Thorne back, which has resulted in injuries. We can now feel safe with Huddlestone playing, and I think it benefits both Thorne and Derby in the long-term having a highly competent, experienced player to ease the pressure on Thorne. Even though I don't think Huddlestone particularly suits Rowett's style of play (Thorne does IMO), his very presence allows Thorne to take his time in recovery, and I'm sure his experience has played a part in our newfound steel and resilience. With those two competing for their places, Ledley's defensive excellence and the emerging prospects of Guy, Vernam and Elsnik, I'm very happy with our midfield options at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Could we revert to 4-3-2-1 with Ledley and Huddlestone providing the base for Thorne to play a more advanced role in the three and Vydra and Weimann sitting behind Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReyDCFC Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Could we revert to 4-3-2-1 with Ledley and Huddlestone providing the base for Thorne to play a more advanced role in the three and Vydra and Weimann sitting behind Martin? This would work well if lawrence is out for a long length of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDerby Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I thought Huddlestone was immense on Saturday, calm on the ball every time he touched it and put some really neat passes together setting us off on the Counter attack. Ledley also broke stuff up really well and looked to give the ball to huddlestone for him to distribute it to the more attacking players. Thorne has to fight for his place in this team, no doubt he is an outstanding player but he doesn't walk into our side anymore. For now, he can do his bit in the side whilst coming back from a big injury and playing his part in games when the other two need a break. a lad coming back from a huge injury and two 30 year olds, there's no doubt they've all got ta part to play this season. 3 class players for 2 positions is perfect. Just enjoy it lads.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Thorne at home Huddlestone away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Depends on the opponents IMO. I can see no reason why Huddlestone and Thorne shouldn't play in the middle for some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 48 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Could we revert to 4-3-2-1 with Ledley and Huddlestone providing the base for Thorne to play a more advanced role in the three and Vydra and Weimann sitting behind Martin? It's a sexy formation/player combination on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 48 minutes ago, ViewsFromTheMiddle said: Thorne at home Huddlestone away? I have to say that was my immediate thought aswell. There is more of a buccaneer about Thorne and he might provide the added impetus we need against away teams that sit back. .. It's a bit of a Jono "theory" which might be complete ********ks but it looks good on paper ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Before Sat I’d say go with Thorne and Ledley ... after Saturday I’d go Thorne and Hudds ... but all three are okay I just prefer the creativity and general je ne sais croix X factor of King George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 31 minutes ago, reveldevil said: It's a sexy formation/player combination on paper. Probably c@@p in practice. It seems we play best when the fans are up in arms about selection. However I think all concerned in my suggested team like to play through the middle rather than down the flanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Probably c@@p in practice. It seems we play best when the fans are up in arms about selection. However I think all concerned in my suggested team like to play through the middle rather than down the flanks. That's ok, as long as the full backs provide the width, which is ok with Ledley and Hudds dropping in to cover, but a big ask of Baird and Fozzy. Worth a try when playing at home against a park the bus outfit, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Anag Ram said: Could we revert to 4-3-2-1 with Ledley and Huddlestone providing the base for Thorne to play a more advanced role in the three and Vydra and Weimann sitting behind Martin? Huddlestone at at centre-half for Davies, George and Vydra. Ipswich attacked so little it was pointless having Davies playing and Burton were the first team to leave a man on Keogh which left Davies trying to bring it forward. Could be worth doing, especially if we end up in the situation we had with Clement in which team LET Shackell have the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 It's pretty hard to imagine how fit Thorne would play... but this utopistic image gets a nod from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I've given this some thought...and I don't know. That's all. As you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Ninos said: Before Sat I’d say go with Thorne and Ledley ... after Saturday I’d go Thorne and Hudds ... but all three are okay I just prefer the creativity and general je ne sais croix X factor of King George Agree, Although in reality I think it depends on the nature of the mids they might face. I'd prefer George if "they" have the sort of terriers that move the ball more quickly than the average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Could well see see 433 with ledley and hudds holding ,Thorne most advanced with vydra nugent wieman if Lawrence injured , theres lots of options for rowett though , the fitness/ availability of Lawrence will be a big factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbyram1983 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 We need both. It's a squad game so I'd imagine both will be important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, Derbyram1983 said: We need both. It's a squad game so I'd imagine both will be important. I am a big admirer of GT but i have a feeling he will go in january might be worth a bet on burton but he will have plenty of admirers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyhill60 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 47 minutes ago, TommyPowel said: I am a big admirer of GT but i have a feeling he will go in january might be worth a bet on burton but he will have plenty of admirers Thorne is not old enough to be signed by Burton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Could we have a bit of 4-3-1-2? Vydra in the hole,Martin/Nugent Winnall As the 2.Especially whilst Lawrence is injured. Unfair on Huddlestone but if it has to be a 2 then GT and JL.Is there a better 2 in the division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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