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Kevin Phillips current 4/1 fave on Sky Bet. So early on, it's probably just a complete guess given his previous links to the club.

However if they are interested in him, it's more likely than not to be managerial suicide. It's a hell of a job to keep them up, they're awful. If you're going into your first ever job as a manager, going to Sunderland would be a gamble to say the least.

I think the best they're going to get is a manager with pretty low stock who needs any job to try and claw back some kind of reputation.

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5 minutes ago, Kernow said:

Kevin Phillips current 4/1 fave on Sky Bet. So early on, it's probably just a complete guess given his previous links to the club.

However if they are interested in him, it's more likely than not to be managerial suicide. It's a hell of a job to keep them up, they're awful. If you're going into your first ever job as a manager, going to Sunderland would be a gamble to say the least.

I think the best they're going to get is a manager with pretty low stock who needs any job to try and claw back some kind of reputation.

King Billy?

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7 hours ago, Kernow said:

Kevin Phillips current 4/1 fave on Sky Bet. So early on, it's probably just a complete guess given his previous links to the club.

However if they are interested in him, it's more likely than not to be managerial suicide. It's a hell of a job to keep them up, they're awful. If you're going into your first ever job as a manager, going to Sunderland would be a gamble to say the least.

I think the best they're going to get is a manager with pretty low stock who needs any job to try and claw back some kind of reputation.

Billy, moyes,  pardew,  Shakespeare,  doogie freedman,  arry. .....

There's a few tattered reputations out there before they get to phillips. 

Question tho....would we be that bothered if he were to leave?

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5 hours ago, Phoenix said:

That is some record. I bet it doesn't get trotted out like our (in)famous record.

I read it wrong at first. Thought that the stars showed their entire home record. 

But then realised that since 2011 they must have played about 120 home games - so all this is really saying is that Sunderland don't come from behind to win.

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5 hours ago, HantsRam said:

I read it wrong at first. Thought that the stars showed their entire home record. 

But then realised that since 2011 they must have played about 120 home games - so all this is really saying is that Sunderland don't come from behind to win.

Yeah, kinda mis-read that a bit. Lies, damn lies etc.

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On ‎31‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 23:21, Wolfie20 said:

King Billy?

Whilst I suspect that is a comment made in jest, might I put a cat amongst the pigeons and say that I think Billy is exactly what they need?

Before I start I want to place on the record how much I hate Billy - I don't even know if that is a strong enough word. The guy is poisonous but so is Sunderland from top to bottom and that ain't going to change soon. So I'm not actually sure that Billy's poison will have much of an impact.

Truth is, however much you hate him, Billy knows his way around this division - in the mould of Warnock and Holloway etc - he knows how to get results at this level. He has actually got a good record. Throw into the mix that he will probably be exactly the kind of character that will get the best out of an underperforming playing staff and may well rejuvenate the support base (Forest fans loved him, we loved him in the first season). But most of all he will get results. Sunderland need a manager who knows this division, who will play percentage football and grind out results, who will get the best out of the playing squad and will, simply, keep the club up.

I know that this post is unlikely to go down well and, believe me, I'm the first to slate Billy and have a laugh at his expense. But this is exactly the kind of manager they need and, given the kind of reputation he now has, just the kind of job that would suit him. That said, he clearly won't get it as we all know the reason clubs won't touch a manager with his results record with a barge pole.

Moreover, when you look at the win records of previous Sunderland managers since 2008, it is clear where the problems at Sunderland lie and it isn't in the dugout. Ellis Short has chopped and changed with an alarming regularity and to no avail - when you look at that virtual constant slide, it goes without saying that he's pretty optimistic to think that a change of manager will do much good this time round. After all, I suspected that Grayson would be a good fit. Instead, I rather suspect that the job of saving Sunderland may well be far beyond any manager, after all, that clearly isn't where the problem lies.

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