McRainy Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 On 28/10/2017 at 03:38, MuespachRam said: Proper football club that were robbed of their top flight status. No they weren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Lambchop said: No they weren't. There has to be some truth in the fact they were robbed, West Ham didnt pay them £20 million in compensation for nothing. If it had been the other way round you can guarantee the league would have docked Sheffield United points to protect their precious West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 The idea that you can get relegated by one player in one team is absurd. They went down because they deserved to go down over the season, not because West Ham fielded one ineligible player. As for the money, they have a litigious owner who even took a non-league club to court for gate receipts. He's not called McSue for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, Lambchop said: The idea that you can get relegated by one player in one team is absurd. They went down because they deserved to go down over the season, not because West Ham fielded one ineligible player. As for the money, they have a litigious owner who even took a non-league club to court for gate receipts. He's not called McSue for nothing. Two ineligible players. It was Tevez and Mascerano. They broke the rules, a point deduction should have been their punishment but the FA waited until the season finished before deciding what action to take and decides it wasn't fair on the league to issue a points deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, rynny said: Two ineligible players. It was Tevez and Mascerano. They broke the rules, a point deduction should have been their punishment but the FA waited until the season finished before deciding what action to take and decides it wasn't fair on the league to issue a points deduction. Did they innocently play the 2 players @rynny, or did they know they weren't eligible and then lie about it when asked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, reveldevil said: Did they innocently play the 2 players @rynny, or did they know they weren't eligible and then lie about it when asked? The owners didn't disclose it when they "signed" them. If they did the signings would not have been completed. It was only discovered when Liverpool wanted to sign Mascerano and West Ham then had to declare it. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/mar/03/newsstory.sport8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 55 minutes ago, rynny said: Two ineligible players. It was Tevez and Mascerano. They broke the rules, a point deduction should have been their punishment but the FA waited until the season finished before deciding what action to take and decides it wasn't fair on the league to issue a points deduction. This...its West Ham all over...what does the FA see in them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, Paul71 said: This...its West Ham all over...what does the FA see in them? Won the world cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Lambchop said: The idea that you can get relegated by one player in one team is absurd. They went down because they deserved to go down over the season, not because West Ham fielded one ineligible player. As for the money, they have a litigious owner who even took a non-league club to court for gate receipts. He's not called McSue for nothing. They played 2 ineligible players that were absolute world class players, West Ham should have been bombed out of the league and I promise you if it had been the other way around the Blades would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Don't have anything against West ham the club, but I do think that their owners are ghastly sleazeballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 35 minutes ago, HantsRam said: Don't have anything against West ham the club, but I do think that their owners are ghastly sleazeballs. Still happening now with that stadium deal, incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Just now, Spanish said: Still happening now with that stadium deal, incredible Exactly so. And the media briefings against their manager which looks like they're trying to get him to resign. Awful people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 12 hours ago, MuespachRam said: They played 2 ineligible players that were absolute world class players, West Ham should have been bombed out of the league and I promise you if it had been the other way around the Blades would have been. I totally agree with this. Obviously we cant prove it but i am sure thats what would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 6 hours ago, Paul71 said: I totally agree with this. Obviously we cant prove it but i am sure thats what would have happened. It's only like QPR cheating to keep us out of the Premier League. We didn't get any compo for their cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 7 hours ago, Gritters said: It's only like QPR cheating to keep us out of the Premier League. We didn't get any compo for their cheating. it is nothing like QPR cheating....QPR just over spent...West Ham played players that were legally not supposed to be playing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 hour ago, MuespachRam said: it is nothing like QPR cheating....QPR just over spent...West Ham played players that were legally not supposed to be playing... Rules are rules. If you cheat to gain an advantage surly the players that were playing were not legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 Didn’t Sheffield United lose their last game anyway, so would have gone down regardless? Tevez might have scored the winner, the gd could still have been in West Ham’s favour. Also still took some effort from the other 9 players, look at Argentina with Messi, he can’t drag a team on his own all the time no matter how good he is. West Ham had 2 players under some dodgy third party ownership, whilst against the rules so is spending within your limit which is why they face a huge fine now. I would argue breaking FFP rules to gain promotion is far worse than fielding 2 players that have have some weird ownership thing going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Think they did lose last game yes David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 15 hours ago, DEL said: Think they did lose last game yes David. Can confirm they did lose last game yes DEL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Horrible leg break for Coutts. Gutted for him to be honest. It was a dislocated knee cap that effectively ended his career with us wasn’t it? Still believe he’d have gone on to be our best midfielder under McClaren had he not been injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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