Derby blood Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Right then we have all been talking about Mr Rowett as a manager, so here it goes, my best 3 managers since I have been following Dcfc are , in first position Mr Cox, loved his team to bits when we had Wright, Shilton, Williams, Micklewhite, Mcminn, Saunders and Goddard, bought us up from the old division 3 to Division 1, and our highest position in the league in those 40 years plus, to 5th, we would have been in Europe, if it wasn't for Liverpool getting all English clubs banned, in number 2 position it has to be Mr Jimbo Smith, played some excellent football at times, and he bought some class players to the club like Poom, Stimac, West( on loan), Eranio, Bianno, Wanchope, Van Der Laan , Chris Powell, Asanavich and many others, took us up from division 1, to premier league playing some great stuff, beating all the big teams, and getting us to 7th I think?, and in 3rd place for me and this might surprise a few was Mr Burley, had no money but got us to playoffs, and played some great stuff , also bought in players like Ideasik, who I loved, sorry about the spelling, Tommy Smith and Bisgaard, really did well with no funds, then the 3 amigos sacked him the season afterwards, now for the 3 worse at the top has to be Jewell, he was clueless, will never forgive him, then for me it has to be the Doc, ruined a fantastic football team, my Grandad hated the man, and in third place it has to be that awful little man Billy Davis, took us up then wished he did it with Preston instead, bought a sack of s**** when in the premiership, Lewis, Clod Davis and the likes, he was a awful man as well , so glad he went to the red dogs, he suited them down to a tee. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Cox, Smith, burley best Pearson, brown, Jewell worst. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Don't think you'll get too many arguments about the best three. Maybe MacLaren 1, or even Nigel in third. Maybe. And I'd put jim smith at number 1, more my era, but I hear good things about cox. Worst, Jewell, easily. Betond that, take your pick, we've had all sorts of crap. I'd like to say Billy, but he did get I promoted, and that's more than most, so he has to get some points for that. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dordogne_Ram Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Good to see George Burley getting a mention, we played some sparkling football under him. Remember the game against the Dirties, they set out to kick us of the pitch, after 5 minutes Uncle George switched us to playing pass and run to perfection, the ball had moved on before they could get a tackle in during the last 85 minutes! Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 How do you define best and worst, by what parameters are you using? The only metric being used seems to be success on the pitch. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 History is kind to Nigel Clough. Sitting through that period was extremely frustrating, and purely because of the length of time he was at the club and the mediocre results we were getting, his weaknesses were easy to spot. In the cold light of day and a chance to reflect on what happened since, we can fully appreciate the job he did. He wasn't perfect, but he left the club in an infinitely better condition than when he arrived, all while slashing the budget. We should have kicked on from what he left behind. His tenure at the club should have been part of the success story, not the prologue to the false dawns. Millions of pounds, half a dozen managers and a new owner since then, and we're still in the same league and arguably regressing to exactly the same kind of results on the pitch. It's a measure of how much we've cocked stuff up in the past 40 years that a manager who turned us from relegation fodder in the second tier to a slightly-above-average second tier side in the space of half a decade is in with a shout of being our top 3 managers in the entire time period. Cox, Smith, Burley and an narrow miss for Clough for me. Davies, Jewell, Pearson in terms of worst. I know Davies being in there will be controversial, but he sewed the seeds the worst team of all time. Takes as much of the blame as Jewell. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Best Cox then Smitb then Davis. Worst Jewell then Davis ( once we won at Wembley) then Possibly Clough for the boredom towards the end. Hard to put the likes of Pearson in or anyone else who was only there for 5 mins. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Pearson and Davies... you lot are having a laugh... Davies achieved something so many managers have failed to repeat... get a grip... wasn't equipped or motivated to handle the premiership but nevertheless at least he got there and had a vision for the team. Plus that team would've never put in such a lifeless performance like we've seen in the last few seasons. Pearson should like clough be vindicated by time, identified something that only now fans are all admitting. Wasn't backed or supported to see out the project which is essentially the same as rowett (change of formation to remove predictability, remove bad eggs and egos, get the team playing with a spine) Would never put clough in the worst managers but best... give me a break, think we would still be going round in the same circles with him. Could fall out with his shadow so good players would be chased transfer window after window to never play and didn't seem to have the balls to make the big decisions to kick on at 2-1, 1-1 half time very predictable defensive subs without ambition Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 No need for a 1, 2 and 3 in the worst category. Nobody will ever surpass Jewell. Thanks to that baffoon we'll forever be known as the worst team in Premier League history. He's a complete imbecile. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 32 minutes ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: Pearson should like clough be vindicated by time, identified something that only now fans are all admitting. Wasn't backed or supported to see out the project which is essentially the same as rowett (change of formation to remove predictability, remove bad eggs and egos, get the team playing with a spine) The man literally played Craig Bryson at holding midfield Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 In my era - Best - Smith, Burley, Davies (Purely on achievement, I get that he's a class a ****) Worst - Jewell, Brown, Pearson I had really high hopes for Pearson, what a massive disappointment he was!! Also, an honourable mention to McLaren 1. At our best under him that season we were frighteningly good. I reckon we would have beaten most mid table premier league teams. Just think what might have been had it not been for Bobby f*****g Zamora. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Best Cox Smith McClaren Worst Docherty Jewell Pearson Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I'd have to go last 20 or so as I have only been around 26 years. Best 3: Jim Smith George Burley (if he hadn't of suddenly left, I honestly think he would have got us promoted the next season) Steve McClaren Worst 3: Phil Brown Paul Jewell John Gregory Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, cannable said: The man literally played Craig Bryson at holding midfield If he had the time to sign his player in that role he wouldn't need to... how many years have we lacked a Thorne back up plan... mascarell didn't work, de sart last season... he's not the first to experiment... Hughes played there... fans crucified Hendrick there... Hanson was dabbled in the role Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: If he had the time to sign his player in that role he wouldn't need to... how many years have we lacked a Thorne back up plan... mascarell didn't work, de sart last season... he's not the first to experiment... Hughes played there... fans crucified Hendrick there... Hanson was dabbled in the role He had three months to sign a player for that role?! Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Duracell said: I know Davies being in there will be controversial, but he sewed the seeds the worst team of all time. Takes as much of the blame as Jewell. Hard to prove I know but in my mind I'm pretty confident that if Billy had remained in charge for the full season then we would have had a better points return than under the loser that is Paul Jewell. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Best - Cox, smith, mcclaren worst - jewell, brown, todd Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 Cox 2 Smith 3 McClaren 4 Burley 5 Davies 1 Jewell 2 Brown 3 Todd 4 Pearson 5 Gregory Sorry got carried away Clough just missed out on top 5. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Duracell said: I know Davies being in there will be controversial, but he sewed the seeds the worst team of all time. Takes as much of the blame as Jewell. Hard to prove I know but in my mind I'm pretty confident that if Wee Billy had remained in charge for the full season then we would have had a better points return than under the loser that is Paul Jewell. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboram Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Last 40 years eh? That rules out the best 2 in my time of watching. Doesn't rule out the worst one though taking circumstances into account I'd say best. Smith, Cox, mcclaren mk 1 (until Jan '15) worst. Docherty (by a mile), Gregory, Jewell Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/27232-best-and-worse-3-managers-in-the-last-40-years/#findComment-1325414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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