Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 3 hours ago, RiddingsRam said: Could look abit like this Grant Wisdom Keogh Shotton Forsyth Thorne Hughes Lansbury Ibe Ince Martin Lansbury ?? just the mention of that c*** Womble #bulletdodgedbigtime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I lost faith with Mac at the end of 14/15 season. Due to injuries we were desperate so he loaned in Ince and Bent, two top class players with Premiership experience. While both contributed and scored goals, the team plummeted and never played as fluently again imo. That in itself was not the problem, the problem was, after Mac left/got the sack, both were signed even though it was blatantly obvious neither really fitted the team. No one could see it???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, uttoxram75 said: I lost faith with Mac at the end of 14/15 season. Due to injuries we were desperate so he loaned in Ince and Bent, two top class players with Premiership experience. While both contributed and scored goals, the team plummeted and never played as fluently again imo. That in itself was not the problem, the problem was, after Mac left/got the sack, both were signed even though it was blatantly obvious neither really fitted the team. No one could see it???? They kept scoring,that was the trouble but totally unsettled the rest of the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 It would have been 4-4 yesterday probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 43 minutes ago, Simsy said: Fuckinghell kash. You are stuck in the play off final season. Steve mclaren Chris Martin. face it none of them are premiership or even top championship level! Mate,it was in response to the what if Mac hadn't been sacked thread.....I'm pretty sure I was in context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Paul71 said: Still don't get why people think Newcastle's interest was why he got sacked. He publically commited to Derby at the end of the season. The reason we didn't get promoted was a truly horrendous run of injuries to key players. Got sacked as Mel assumed more control and think Mel had his sights on Clement. Shouldn't have got sacked either time. What's not to get? He got sacked because he'd decided to go to Newcastle then acted appallingly and disrespectfully. He's since apologised for his behaviour to both the fans and to Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffle Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 More @Ryan O'Meara Meme's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 hour ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Mate,it was in response to the what if Mac hadn't been sacked thread.....I'm pretty sure I was in context What saying we win more then lose under mac? dont be blinkered by one season without that one season he's been a failure. No club want him not even hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I'll be impressed when rowett gets us on a ten win unbeaten streak.....which Mac still managed in his most unsuccessful spell with us. In fact two games without losing would be pretty handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just now, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: I'll be impressed when rowett gets us on a ten win unbeaten streak.... How can a ten win streak not also be an unbeaten run or am I missing something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Parsnip said: What's not to get? He got sacked because he'd decided to go to Newcastle then acted appallingly and disrespectfully. He's since apologised for his behaviour to both the fans and to Mel. Er no he didn't, he only apologized because Mel told him too, and for not dismissing the rumours earlier. He did not agree to go to Newcastle until after he was sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 5 hours ago, G-Ram said: Probably would have levelled out at midtable He went on a freakish run with a midtable side to get to a playoff final. We slightly improved with loans and signings but we got sussed out so we'd probably be hovering around 15th with Mac still You don't produce the standard of football we were because of a 'freakish run' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Millenniumram said: Oh yeah that certainly didn't help either, but that level of capitulation was something never seen before. We played like a relegation team at the back end of that season, it was clear something else was wrong too. We lost our entire spine and it's cover. Granty playing through injury, Bucko, Whitbread, George, OMG, Eust, Martin and Bent ALL out at one stage. Many time would suffer the same should the balance of their team be eviscerated to that extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I hate Mac discussions. Every just seems to chat s****. There are few balanced views on it. He was staying and he made it abundantly clear. The Newcastle thing had nothing to do with it, injuries cripple us. The Plan B thing was stupid at the time. No team has a Plan B. Barcelona don't have Plan B. Real Madrid don't have Plan B. Even super pragmatists don't have Plan B! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Simsy said: f****** hell kash. You are stuck in the play off final season. Steve mclaren Chris Martin. face it none of them are premiership or even top championship level! Any opportunity to have a dig at Martin. Repetitive, tiresome, boring and predictable post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 And in the interests of balance, an entirely fair criticism of that 14/15 run in is that Mac 2 showed us that he COULD set up a Derby team, without much of its's footballing spine left, to grind out results with Ince doing the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 59 minutes ago, Inglorius said: How can a ten win streak not also be an unbeaten run or am I missing something I must admit I'd be concerned more about an unbeaten streak involving several losses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 7 hours ago, Paul71 said: Still don't get why people think Newcastle's interest was why he got sacked. He publically commited to Derby at the end of the season. The reason we didn't get promoted was a truly horrendous run of injuries to key players. Got sacked as Mel assumed more control and think Mel had his sights on Clement. Shouldn't have got sacked either time. Spot on Paul 71. The number of times I have researched and attached statements and interviews confirming SM was committed to Derby but fans still choose to believe what they want to believe. The other irksome urban myth is that our dreadful dip in form at the time was down to Ince and Bent and not the injuries, the 2 players that actually performed during that period and scored all of the goals. Try focusing the criticism on those that didn't me thinks. I also don't think we have improved under any other Manager since.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: Spot on Paul 71. The number of times I have researched and attached statements and interviews confirming SM was committed to Derby but fans still choose to believe what they want to believe. The other irksome urban myth is that our dreadful dip in form at the time was down to Ince and Bent and not the injuries, the 2 players that actually performed during that period and scored all of the goals. Try focusing the criticism on those that didn't me thinks. I also don't think we have improved under any other Manager since.... Bent and once were both excellent in their loan period. Still think if just one of our 3 main DCM players had stayed fit we would have gone up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Mcclaren was is and forever will be ... utterly useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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