RiddingsRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, Coconut said: Bad example! It'd be perfectly correct to whinge if we spunked £10m on something we don't need. You get the gist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Bazal77 said: why are we wasting our time on players like this mediocre championship player at best we should have our sights set higher than this. rowetts transfer business has been uninspiring Look at our manager..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazzaRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I prefer the pre Wembley Derby fans. The new breed are just a load of old moaning minnies who have no idea how to accept defeat or poor performances. No idea about financial side of a club...generally spoilt brats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, brady1993 said: Yup and it's going to become more frequent as well once opposing managers click on. Do you think we might need a plan b ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazal77 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, DazzaRam said: I prefer the pre Wembley Derby fans. The new breed are just a load of old moaning minnies who have no idea how to accept defeat or poor performances. No idea about financial side of a club...generally spoilt brats. pre wemberly we had a team that played 'football' nand there was evidence of progress, we were improving, there were players to be excited about in the team, there was a feeling of something special happening, post wemberly id go so far as to say that none of the above is true anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, rammieib said: Look at our manager..... I don't get it ? Please elaborate ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazal77 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, RiddingsRam said: I don't get it ? Please elaborate ..... i think he means that he is uninspiring and is a mediocre championship manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Bazal77 said: pre wemberly we had a team that played 'football' nand there was evidence of progress, we were improving, there were players to be excited about in the team, there was a feeling of something special happening, post wemberly id go so far as to say that none of the above is true anymore In all fairness Mel explained this scenario pretty well at the fans forum last Thursday, did you watch ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Bazal77 said: i think he means that he is uninspiring and is a mediocre championship manager Oh ! Original perhaps he should start following somebody else then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazzaRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Bazal77 said: pre wemberly we had a team that played 'football' nand there was evidence of progress, we were improving, there were players to be excited about in the team, there was a feeling of something special happening, post wemberly id go so far as to say that none of the above is true anymore Under Clough years we had far worse sides than this and I never heard the same amount of bile that gets put on social media as I hear and read now. Expectations were risen by McClaren's first 7 months in charge which has bought a whole new attitude. We have spent in the past few windows...massively so its time to check back a bit. Not Rowett's fault that some players here are unsellable is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, DazzaRam said: I prefer the pre Wembley Derby fans. The new breed are just a load of old moaning minnies who have no idea how to accept defeat or poor performances. No idea about financial side of a club...generally spoilt brats. Top post Dazza and every bit true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazal77 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, RiddingsRam said: In all fairness Mel explained this scenario pretty well at the fans forum last Thursday, did you watch ? no sir, i did not, would you care to explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bazal77 said: pre wemberly we had a team that played 'football' nand there was evidence of progress, we were improving, there were players to be excited about in the team, there was a feeling of something special happening, post wemberly id go so far as to say that none of the above is true anymore Pre 'pre Wembley' we were pretty crap. We've actually been pretty crap for all but a handful of my 30 years supporting this club. Some of us try to judge things with a bit of perspective, and comparatively speaking these are actually some of the 'good times'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, DazzaRam said: I prefer the pre Wembley Derby fans. The new breed are just a load of old moaning minnies who have no idea how to accept defeat or poor performances. No idea about financial side of a club...generally spoilt brats. Completely agree. The Match day thread when we're losing or have lost is just like a childrens' playground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Even with Tesche leaving and Birmingham missing out on Song they have a lot of centre mids still - N'Doye, Gleeson, Gardner, Lowe, Kieftenbeld not including Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazal77 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, DazzaRam said: Under Clough years we had far worse sides than this and I never heard the same amount of bile that gets put on social media as I hear and read now. Expectations were risen by McClaren's first 7 months in charge which has bought a whole new attitude. We have spent in the past few windows...massively so its time to check back a bit. Not Rowett's fault that some players here are unsellable is it? no your absolutley right its not his fault, and cloughs teams were worse however they improved, they played football, how often did the players just not turn up? cloughs tenure was hard because we were such a state when he took over, rowett has taken over a squad of players from different managers and i know its going to be hard, he had 10 games last season and we are at the end of the 'first sprint' are we a better team than when he took over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Bazal77 said: no sir, i did not, would you care to explain As a brief synopsis (this is from hazy memory so please tell me if it's wrong): After Wembley players one by one came and demanded big contracts so the wage bill went through the roof. That Derby had paid big wages/fees for players early in his ownership That players have so much power - One player (Glen Whelan?) was pretty much signed, sealed and through the door until at the 11th hour he demanded more money and Derby said no, so he went elsewhere Derby won't now pay the big numbers that other championship clubs are now paying. Think that's about it? I'm bound to have missed something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Bazal77 said: pre wemberly we had a team that played 'football' nand there was evidence of progress, we were improving, there were players to be excited about in the team, there was a feeling of something special happening, post wemberly id go so far as to say that none of the above is true anymore You've just given an example of what @DazzaRam was getting at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 16 minutes ago, DazzaRam said: I prefer the pre Wembley Derby fans. The new breed are just a load of old moaning minnies who have no idea how to accept defeat or poor performances. No idea about financial side of a club...generally spoilt brats. pre-Wembley or pre-Premier League season? That for me was when the fan base attitude changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanoakaram4life Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, VulcanRam said: As a brief synopsis (this is from hazy memory so please tell me if it's wrong): After Wembley players one by one came and demanded big contracts so the wage bill went through the roof. That Derby had paid big wages/fees for players early in his ownership That players have so much power - One player (Glen Whelan?) was pretty much signed, sealed and through the door until at the 11th hour he demanded more money and Derby said no, so he went elsewhere Derby won't now pay the big numbers that other championship clubs are now paying. Think that's about it? I'm bound to have missed something It's ok not competing for the top players but when your scouting network goes as far as domestic talent, your only going to atttract average/aging players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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