Bris Vegas Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Kernow said: I'm sorry Bris but putting Man City and "refusing to overpay" in the same sentence is just a tiny, little, minuscule bit ironic. Who have City overpaid for? A number of their recent signings have been justified bu their ability and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Who have City overpaid for? A number of their recent signings have been justified bu their ability and age. Why would they be overpaying for Sanchez? Free transfers aren't 'free', especially at that level. As Neville's tweet explained, he's not any more expensive than he would've been in the summer for City. I don't understand why they'd be willing to spend over £80mil combined on two right backs, yet see Sanchez, one of the standout PL players in recent seasons, as too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 55 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Who have City overpaid for? A number of their recent signings have been justified bu their ability and age. £100M combined for Stones and Walker. Safe to say they've done their share of overspending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, ViewsFromTheMiddle said: £100M combined for Stones and Walker. Safe to say they've done their share of overspending. John Stones is 23. Considering he’s going to be there for the next 10 years, is £50m really overspent when players like Theo Walcott at 28 is going for £20m. As for Walker. Again was he really overpriced in today’s market? He’s among the best fullbacks in the league and still at a good age. Maybe £30m-35m each for the pair would be closer to their perceived ability but the difference at that level is easy to make up. They sold Iheanacho for like £20m and he’s a Leicester reserve. Market has gone crazy, so all things considering Man City haven’t exactly overspent considering how dominant they are. Could be worse. You could be United who have spent not much less and play like turd every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 38 minutes ago, Kernow said: Why would they be overpaying for Sanchez? Free transfers aren't 'free', especially at that level. As Neville's tweet explained, he's not any more expensive than he would've been in the summer for City. I don't understand why they'd be willing to spend over £80mil combined on two right backs, yet see Sanchez, one of the standout PL players in recent seasons, as too expensive. Because they could get him without paying a transfer fee in six months time. Sure agent fees and signing bonuses aren’t free, but they’re nowhere near the transfer fee figure mentioned. Where City should be applauded is for not bowing to player demands. They’re refusing the agent fee and refusing to break their own wage structure on a player who probably only has 3 more years left at that top level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Has anyone just bought @Bris Vegas an anime pillow and a Pep mask to put on it yet? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nekopara-Anime-Body-Pillow-Waifu-Dakimakura-Gift-UK/162854050032?hash=item25eadb98f0:g:jCEAAOSw3wVaXQX8 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEP-GUARDIOLA-BIG-A3-Face-Mask-or-Life-size-MAN-FC-CITY-BARCELONA-BAYERN-MUNICH/201564049497?hash=item2eee275059:m:mdDikWtOEUe4ot49A3lm--A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Man City deserve huge respect for their Alexis Sanchez stance. They’re refusing to overpay for a player who in six months is out of contract, they’re refusing his agent’s request of £10million and they’re refusing to agree to his astronomical wage demands which would make him their top earner. Man Utd on the other hand are seemingly set to agree on all terms. Desperate or what! Sanchez also deserves criticism. Why leave Arsenal for United? Wait six months and lower your wage demands and you get your preferred move to City. The fact he’s basically set to join United can only be for financial reasons. Like he actually needs more! Sanchez joining United will also restrict Rashford more. It’s a terrible deal for football all round. Why leave Arsenal for United.....Arsenal are in danger of being the most stagnant team in the league, the new Coventry City, never going down but never winning anything.....no one blames Sanchez for wanting out of that mess surely? Rashford is an awful footballer.....he is just a poor mans Danny Welbeck and lets me tell you something that is nothing to be proud of. If he wasn't a Manchester lad and had cost them 30 million he would be getting absolute pelters from the United fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: Why leave Arsenal for United.....Arsenal are in danger of being the most stagnant team in the league, the new Coventry City, never going down but never winning anything.....no one blames Sanchez for wanting out of that mess surely? Rashford is an awful footballer.....he is just a poor mans Danny Welbeck and lets me tell you something that is nothing to be proud of. If he wasn't a Manchester lad and had cost them 30 million he would be getting absolute pelters from the United fans. to be fair, the just havent won the champions league or the league for abit. theyve had fa cups and other bobs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Where City should be applauded is for not bowing to player demands. Too right. Can’t possibly go spending loads of money on Sanchez in January when they are trying to save up for Yaya’s birthday cake in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I actually agree with Bris here, think Man City are doing the whole of football a huge favour by refusing to break their very strict and sensible wage structure that will not see anyone paid more than £220,000 per week. Big round of applause for City I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 12 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Where City should be applauded is for not bowing to player demands. They’re refusing the agent fee and refusing to break their own wage structure on a player who probably only has 3 more years left at that top level. One of the most stupid things I've ever read in regards to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Srg said: One of the most stupid things I've ever read in regards to football. So you think Man City should just pay his agent the money he wants and increase the club’s wage barrier because the player wants that much? It’s evident Man City are setting limits and sticking to them. That is good for football. If they bow to player pressure there is no going back and it only fecks the market up further. If you allow an Alexis Sanchez 350k per week, it’s only a matter of time before average PL players are on 100k a week and Championship players 50k a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: So you think Man City should just pay his agent the money he wants and increase the club’s wage barrier because the player wants that much? It’s evident Man City are setting limits and sticking to them. That is good for football. If they bow to player pressure there is no going back and it only fecks the market up further. If you allow an Alexis Sanchez 350k per week, it’s only a matter of time before average PL players are on 100k a week and Championship players 50k a week. They ******* the market to begin with. That's like a murderer only stopping at one murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I suppose Man City's run had to come to an end at some point, shame though would have loved them to go invincible so those whiny Arsenal fans can stop using that as a reason that they are a big club. Although at the same time I guess it shows how average the Premier League really is, just a few team around the top 6 and then the rest are really just average squads. Only Sky's over exposure of it making it sound like it is this promised land where anything can happen and anyone can win it. Just a huge media show now, with managers always in "heated arguments" and players being overpayed and thinking they are owed the world, not what Football should be about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 44 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: It’s only a matter of time before average PL players are on 100k a week and Championship players 50k a week. Jesse Lingard earns £100k a week. John Terry earns £70k a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Srg said: They ******* the market to begin with. That's like a murderer only stopping at one murder. How did they mess with the market? They don't hold the transfer record for a goalkeeper, defender, midfielder or attacker. They don't pay their players the most in the Premier League... Their biggest outlay on one player was Mendy at £49.3m. The guy is 23, he will be there for the next 7 years at least. How is that creating an out of proportion market? Liverpool, Chelsea and United all spent more on one player this past summer. United in particular spent £40m on Matic who is 30 this summer. If anything, teams like Everton have messed the market up spending £40m on the likes of Sigurdsson. A player who wouldn't make any first XI of the top 6. Not to mention he's 28. City bought a better player in Bernardo Silva for the same price and he's five years younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Bris Vegas said: How did they mess with the market? They don't hold the transfer record for a goalkeeper, defender, midfielder or attacker. They don't pay their players the most in the Premier League... Their biggest outlay on one player was Mendy at £49.3m. The guy is 23, he will be there for the next 7 years at least. How is that creating an out of proportion market? Liverpool, Chelsea and United all spent more on one player this past summer. United in particular spent £40m on Matic who is 30 this summer. If anything, teams like Everton have messed the market up spending £40m on the likes of Sigurdsson. A player who wouldn't make any first XI of the top 6. Not to mention he's 28. City bought Bernardo Silva for the same price and he's five years younger. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41223990 ''Man City have the most expensive squad in world football''. And didn't they spend 50 milion on Kyle Walker? https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/10-most-expensive-defenders-time-10791369 Manchester City has 5/10 of the world's most expensive defenders of all time, potentially 4 now that Van Dyke has eclipsed it. Man City also earn substantially less revenue than Manchester United, a club with 200 million less revenue per year shouldn't be buying as many expensive players. Didn't Man City also START the outrageous spending, when they bought Robinho for 32.5 million, which was a British transfer record at the time of signing, so you could easily argue that they began the ludicrous spending, for a past it Brazilian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Man City wasn't invented until 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Andicis said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41223990 ''Man City have the most expensive squad in world football''. And didn't they spend 50 milion on Kyle Walker? https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/10-most-expensive-defenders-time-10791369 Manchester City has 5/10 of the world's most expensive defenders of all time, potentially 4 now that Van Dyke has eclipsed it. Man City also earn substantially less revenue than Manchester United, a club with 200 million less revenue per year shouldn't be buying as many expensive players. Didn't Man City also START the outrageous spending, when they bought Robinho for 32.5 million, which was a British transfer record at the time of signing, so you could easily argue that they began the ludicrous spending, for a past it Brazilian. Robinho was 23 at the time City bought him. Hardly an outrageous fee for a player who had over 100 appearances for Real Madrid and was a regular for the Brazilian national team. Rio Ferdinand cost like £30m back in 2002. Andy Carroll joined Liverpool for £35m! Paying big money for players in their early 20s is fine, assuming they get a good 7-10 years out of them. And as for City's defenders... Mendy and Stones will be there for years. Walker at £45m was about £15m too much but that's not a big deal for a club of that size. Mangala at £32m was too much, but he's 26 so they could sell him off to somebody like Crystal Palace for around £22m quite easily I'd imagine. Who are the other defenders? Otamendi at £28m is fine considering he's one of the PL's best centre-backs. As for their other players? De Bruyne cost them £55m, he'd go for about £150m these days. Leroy Sane at £37m is a bargain considering his ability, age and potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: So you think Man City should just pay his agent the money he wants and increase the club’s wage barrier because the player wants that much? It’s evident Man City are setting limits and sticking to them. That is good for football. If they bow to player pressure there is no going back and it only fecks the market up further. If you allow an Alexis Sanchez 350k per week, it’s only a matter of time before average PL players are on 100k a week and Championship players 50k a week. Man City and good for football in the same sentence? ? Their owners and the club epitomise everything that has gone wrong with football and make die hard fans lose interest in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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