GenBr Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: You think one signing will be worth waiting for? If that one signing is Gareth Bale then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 Ram Raider Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jortat said: I think everybody needs to take a deep breath and see what team we have at the end of the transfer window. Then give it a couple of months before ripping the team apart and giving up hope. We all knew it was going to be tough after Hughes and Ince were sold so lets give GR time to shuffle the squad around and then get them playing. We really do need to give him some time or we will just chop and change as we have since NC was sacked and we will get nowhere and compel our club to being a laughing stock . Patience and some good deals in the transfer window is our only option. Chopping managers every season has got us in the mire where we are now ( and some crazy prices paid for mediocre players) Only 2 games in. Support the club and show some faith in our manager. COYR Wish this message could of been passed to the moaning Myrtles sat behind us today. Never heard grown men whinge so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 That wasn't very good now was it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 56 minutes ago, TroyDyer said: I will say it again for the 3rd year straight. There is a cancer within the club. No player ever comes here and improves. Sorry but Ince for one must have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, jono said: Not slashing wrists yet. Early days but that was pretty glum wasn't it complete lack of magic in the attacking half of the pitch. Martin isolated for much of the game until Nugent came on and we saw a glimmer of possibilities. plus points. Tom can pass and play the ball first time, something we have been missing Davis pretty solid Wisdom .. Wow how did we manage to get him for the price. Top top signing. Weiman might not have achieved much but he worked his balls off. negatives. why is Martin on his own up there .. No partner and no midfield close enough or quick enough ? Fozzy out of position too often Johnny's "percentage" game doesn't work when up against some quality Butters And Johnson .. Poor games. Reputations declining swiftly even from a die hard happy Clappy off to sulk for 2 days .. Talk later The big gap left in front of Fozzy didn't help him either to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Country Ram Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: Didn't happen You really think so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: A couple of years ago we beat Wolves 5-0 with Simon Dawkins linking the play. Fans said he offered nothing and couldn't wait to see him leave. So we went out and spent £6.5 million on Bradley Johnson. Now we can't pass for toffee while Wolves cut through us like p!ss in the snow. Karma I guess. It's truly galling to remember were we not long ago compared to what we've become now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Right just got home. Just need to find a decent length of rope and a sturdy beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It is indeed amazing when you compare our Championship final team and style of play with the huge money spent to turn it into this current dross its not a good story is it .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Let's keep it real folks, wolves were the better side no question they knew they were going to control the football they knew where they were going to pass it and they did it. regarding Derby we were sedentary in midfield which kills all the forwards - we can't start games with Butterfield and Johnson and expect to pass the ball forwards because we know it just doesn't happen - do we currently have many alternatives- not really apart from Bryson to start yes I am frustrated but realistic we need more in central midfield more than anything Yeah and the magic russell was his usual crap self ....should've scored and gets pushed off the ball far too easily ....he's not the only one .... heard fans talking about his non affective game yet again on the way out ...but he's not the only one as I've said ....loads of effort doesn't make a player!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 That was one of the worst games for a while, worse than under Pearson. 4 or 5 nil wouldnt have flattered Wolves and they never really had to get out of second gear. I dont know what to say, really gutted i thought we showed no passion or desire. Roll on Tuesday a chance to put it right, these players ARE better than this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Turgid, pathetic performance. Carson and Bryson were the only ones who deserved to wear the shirt. Russell, Weimann and Anya (a little harsh maybe on Anya) were all woeful, 0 end product, Weimann was almost never in the position we needed him out wide. Add in the complete lack of cohesion in midfield as Butterfield and Johnson probably put in some of their worst ever performances in a Derby shirt. Davies in defence seemed routinely beaten, Wisdom made one worldie of a tackle, however was slow and ponderous in possession. Forsyth got done on several occasions. Martin was largely ineffective, as was Nugent, but I'll give them some slack as they received almost no support. The thing that bothered me most today was the lack of urgency. We were 1-0 down at home, and we had 6 of our players stationary behind the ball. We need players surging forward to provide options. Now, I'd like to see a big improvement for our next game, I'm not blowing this out of proportion, just think we were terrible today, hopefully our players can step up and we can see some changes for our next game. A final note is that I thought Wolves were a very good side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Just now, Paul71 said: That was one of the worst games for a while, worse than under Pearson. 4 or 5 nil wouldnt have flattered Wolves and they never really had to get out of second gear. I dont know what to say, really gutted i thought we showed no passion or desire. Roll on Tuesday a chance to put it right, these players ARE better than this..... Really? We shouldn't have to take a pasting to get some effort out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 That was abysmal, fair enough Rowett's in a tough spot with Vydra out and no new attacking signing but I have absolutely no idea what he's trying to do right now. He's got a 4-3-3 with the slowest midfield I've seen us field in ages, they don't support Martin in the slightest. There's absolutely no energy down the middle of the side at all. Why are you playing Martin when he's got no support and chasing down punts? Setting our best striker up for failure. The wingers tucked in allowing the full-backs to overlap, but we've got two full-backs you wouldn't consider quick in Wisdom and Forsyth. It was really ineffective, don't think we met a cross from them all day. Weimann and Russell didn't ever look like scoring doing that either, they made us really easy to defend against too by being so static. Wolves job was easy; mark the winger standing in the middle and block the cross coming in from the full-back who can't get around the defence. We started the second half badly, they were opening us up every 3/4 minutes while we weren't getting anywhere. He still stuck with the unenergtic 4-3-3 despite the fact we were open at the back and doing s**** all up top. Finally brought on Nugent to switch to a 4-2-3-1 but kept Johnson at LM. What's the obsession with Johnson as an attacking player? He's got some good attacking qualities but he's not what we needed. Would have been better sticking with Russell and Weimann on the wings. Even more annoying when he kept Johnson on and took Weimann off when we were chasing the game. I think Rowett's just having to work with what he's got at the moment but I'm feeling let down at the moment. We've signed more old players than we have young ones and we're no more athletic, maybe even less so. Why are we waiting til the hour mark to switch to a clearly more effective 4-2-3-1? If you're going to play Martin, get someone close to him. If you're going to play Huddlestone or Butterfield, play a striker/midfield who'll make runs for them to pick out. Desperately need Lawrence or someone with a bit of magic in them. We're far too easy to defend against right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Just now, RoyMac5 said: Really? We shouldn't have to take a pasting to get some effort out of them. Dont disagree with you. But if it does happen I want to see a reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Andicis said: Turgid, pathetic performance. Carson and Bryson were the only ones who deserved to wear the shirt. Russell, Weimann and Anya (a little harsh maybe on Anya) were all woeful, 0 end product, Weimann was almost never in the position we needed him out wide. Add in the complete lack of cohesion in midfield as Butterfield and Johnson probably put in some of their worst ever performances in a Derby shirt. Davies in defence seemed routinely beaten, Wisdom made one worldie of a tackle, however was slow and ponderous in possession. Forsyth got done on several occasions. Martin was largely ineffective, as was Nugent, but I'll give them some slack as they received almost no support. The thing that bothered me most today was the lack of urgency. We were 1-0 down at home, and we had 6 of our players stationary behind the ball. We need players surging forward to provide options. Now, I'd like to see a big improvement for our next game, I'm not blowing this out of proportion, just think we were terrible today, hopefully our players can step up and we can see some changes for our next game. A final note is that I thought Wolves were a very good side. I thought Bryson did ok when he came on yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Andicis said: Turgid, pathetic performance. Carson and Bryson were the only ones who deserved to wear the shirt. Russell, Weimann and Anya (a little harsh maybe on Anya) were all woeful, 0 end product, Weimann was almost never in the position we needed him out wide. Add in the complete lack of cohesion in midfield as Butterfield and Johnson probably put in some of their worst ever performances in a Derby shirt. Davies in defence seemed routinely beaten, Wisdom made one worldie of a tackle, however was slow and ponderous in possession. Forsyth got done on several occasions. Martin was largely ineffective, as was Nugent, but I'll give them some slack as they received almost no support. The thing that bothered me most today was the lack of urgency. We were 1-0 down at home, and we had 6 of our players stationary behind the ball. We need players surging forward to provide options. Now, I'd like to see a big improvement for our next game, I'm not blowing this out of proportion, just think we were terrible today, hopefully our players can step up and we can see some changes for our next game. A final note is that I thought Wolves were a very good side. They were very good to be fair and as an example there left back looked technically streets ahead of our defenders ...to be honest we were lucky it wasn't 4 at least...big wake up call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Ram Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Our midfield are the slowest most negative bunch we have had in years. Gotta say again Rowett forced our only forward thinking creator out the door ! Looking like a clever move hey Gaz ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibby Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Well that was f****** diabolical. Dunno what Davies and rowett are trying to say that we controlled the game- did we b*******! We were completely outplayed by a team with far greater quality than us. What you saw out there was one team who could challenge for promotion, and one that's gonna threaten the bottom more than the top. We've got no attacking spark whatsoever, and to be fair what can you expect when you take a team that didn't score enough goals and sell the top goalscorer! Weimann was about the only one that looked like making anything happen, I really cannot see where our goals are going to come from, especially in that system. We need more than just to replace ince, one man simply won't cut it Gary- its not just a lack of quality in attack, it's also the lack of creative quality in midfield- there's no imagination whatsoever in that midfield two. To be brutally honest it's really sad to see, we've been reduced to a workmanlike mid table side in this transfer window- there's no players left who really get you off your seats when they're on the ball cause they might make something happen! Sadly can see this going very Pearson, selling our best players and not adequately replacing them before panic buying someone. Hope I'm wrong, but if this carries on then rowett won't make it past September and there ain't many signs of Improvement. It's all well and good that we've improved the defence but was that really the problem last year? A good defence ain't gonna do much if the midfield is just cut open as well! Really don't know where we go from here, it's not even like there's many really good options in the squad to improve it, it's all just more of the same s****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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