DcFc Dyycheee Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 51 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Has anybody changed their mind now that we're a couple of days from the transfer window? Assuming 4-2-3-1 is the way, we currently have a surplus of central midfielders yet none of them seem quite good enough IMO. All 3 not good enough, but would still stay with First Team - Johnson. Bench - Bryson. Sell - Butterifled. Ideally though we sell two of those, bring in a new CM and bring through Elsnik or Guy on the bench this season, won't happen in this window though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 If GR is continuing with current tactics, get rid of Bryson and Butters. If we start trying to play football again, playing through the midfield, breaking lines etc, then I'd shift Huddlestone on, and keep the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: Has anybody changed their mind now that we're a couple of days from the transfer window? Assuming 4-2-3-1 is the way, we currently have a surplus of central midfielders yet none of them seem quite good enough IMO. If the plan is 4231 and Huddlestone starts then none are a good fit to partner him really and its something that needs addressing. Bryson could be used in the middle of the three (especially if Martin is playing up top) and if we switch to a 433 he really should play as he is the only midfield capable of breaking forward really. He is also probably the best 'bad' option to pair with Huddlestone. Butterfield whilst not really fitting into a 4231 (although he could be used as #10 with a mobile striker) does have something of a niche in that he's the guy Rowett turns to if he needs a bit more control in midfield. He's also the only player capable of that linking role if we switch to a 433. Johnson, I think is a poor (poor as in not good enough for a top 6 challenge first 11) player who gifts away possesion and isn't particularly mobile either. However he has been an ever present under Rowett and he's probably the least likely to get sold. So for me itd be Start - Bryson Bench- Butterfield Sell - Johnson But I think for Rowett it will be a case of switching Bryson and Johnson around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCAR Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Wednesday taking Butterfield off us!!?? just as I thought this window was a disaster..... awful, negative, slow, thick....( I could go on ). Goodbye Jacob shut the door behind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Redcar said: Wednesday taking Butterfield off us!!?? just as I thought this window was a disaster..... awful, negative, slow, thick....( I could go on ). Goodbye Jacob shut the door behind you. Hurrah for that, no doubt he'll have a stormer against us though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I can't believe of those 3 we will be left with Johnson. I feel like I'm living in an inverse reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, sage said: I can't believe of those 3 we will be left with Johnson. I feel like I'm living in an inverse reality. The worst one of the three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 * best of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleyram Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Seriously thin on midfield players now , if Johnson and Huddlestone get injured we will be playing 5 defenders 5 attackers , I don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Happy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Bradley is certainly the best out the 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Butters and Bryson clearly weren't figuring under these tactics of GR's. Best of luck to them. Both quality players. Our midfield is much worse off now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 21 minutes ago, Warren Hobhead said: Butters and Bryson clearly weren't figuring under these tactics of GR's. Best of luck to them. Both quality players. Our midfield is much worse off now. Shame to see Bryson go. As for Butterfield, meh. I'm happy with Kieftenbeld in his place. Give it a couple years and I'll probably have forgotten JB even played for Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Shame Johnson is still here but he is so we back him. Bryson - gutted but for purely sentimental reasons. It's the right time. Butterfield - not been so excited about an outgoing for some time! Get in! Talented player, never fitted in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 14 hours ago, Millenniumram said: Hurrah for that, no doubt he'll have a stormer against us though! On loan so cannot play against us this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 14 hours ago, Warren Hobhead said: Butters and Bryson clearly weren't figuring under these tactics of GR's. Best of luck to them. Both quality players. Our midfield is much worse off now. Sorta agree and disagree. It'd become very clear that we were transitioning to a 4231 where neither are really great to partner Huddlestone and so bringing Keith will hopefully give us better balance and bring the best out of Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, brady1993 said: Sorta agree and disagree. It'd become very clear that we were transitioning to a 4231 where neither are really great to partner Huddlestone and so bringing Keith will hopefully give us better balance and bring the best out of Tom. Yeah I hope so. Those two have now departed so I'll get behind the new lads. But I don't feel some of the posts about Butters are very fair. I must have missed the horrific form he's apparently been in. From my point of view he had a superb first season and has since suffered (as did Hughes let us not forget, and others) with the change of manager and system every three months. I don't believe he or Bryson had a future here under this manager so fair is fair. It's about Derby. We have to back the man in charge. I hope Keith and Winnall prove inspired additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Warren Hobhead said: Yeah I hope so. Those two have now departed so I'll get behind the new lads. But I don't feel some of the posts about Butters are very fair. I must have missed the horrific form he's apparently been in. From my point of view he had a superb first season and has since suffered (as did Hughes let us not forget, and others) with the change of manager and system every three months. I don't believe he or Bryson had a future here under this manager so fair is fair. It's about Derby. We have to back the man in charge. I hope Keith and Winnall prove inspired additions. Completely agree. Let's hope Rowetts decisions pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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