JG400 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I am a bit disappointed to be honest with the clear out so far , I hoped perhaps 5 or 6 more would have gone by now , don't really care who (first team squad members of course ) I just wanted to see a real clear out to start a fresh, it feels like by the time of the Kaiserslautern game we may see the same old faces taking to the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edinburgh ram Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Agree fully. Obviously there can't be too much interest at the moment. Hopefully maybe soon we'll see the likes of Christie, Pearce, a couple of attacking players maybe and I would like to see butterfield go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Edinburgh ram said: Agree fully. Obviously there can't be too much interest at the moment. Hopefully maybe soon we'll see the likes of Christie, Pearce, a couple of attacking players maybe and I would like to see butterfield go Can't be letting Butters go as well as Hughes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Well the friendly games are the whole squad mixed up over two games the same day aren't they? At least it'll give the under21's a chance to play with some older players to show what they can offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Just now, Boycie said: Well the friendly games are the whole squad mixed up over two games the same day aren't they? At least it'll give the under21's a chance to play with some older players to show what they can offer. You don't half get things muddled up, on the 18th July we play Port Vale and Doncaster at the same time, both games will feature a mixture of U21's and first team players. How the other friendlies will go no idea. The way Rowett talks about liking his teams to hit the ground running says to me there won't be many experiments. Could be wrong mind you, has been known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, David said: You don't half get things muddled up, on the 18th July we play Port Vale and Doncaster at the same time, both games will feature a mixture of U21's and first team players. How the other friendlies will go no idea. The way Rowett talks about liking his teams to hit the ground running says to me there won't be many experiments. Could be wrong mind you, has been known. That's what I said init? Del Boy will know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edinburgh ram Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, cannable said: Can't be letting Butters go as well as Hughes! I'd hope we could maybe bring in someone new if we could get decent enough fees for some of the clear out player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, Edinburgh ram said: Agree fully. Obviously there can't be too much interest at the moment. Hopefully maybe soon we'll see the likes of Christie, Pearce, a couple of attacking players maybe and I would like to see butterfield go Can't see Butterfield going. I think he will be very influential this year, particularly as l expect we will have a good CDM behind him ( hope it is Whelan personally, and let Thorne inch himself back). Not sure why everyone is so down, although l guess when it comes to thinking of the 2013/14 campaign my only thought is where did those last 3 years go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 51 minutes ago, JG400 said: I am a bit disappointed to be honest with the clear out so far , I hoped perhaps 5 or 6 more would have gone by now , don't really care who (first team squad members of course ) I just wanted to see a real clear out to start a fresh, it feels like by the time of the Kaiserslautern game we may see the same old faces taking to the pitch Reality is, if the phones not ringing, it's not ringing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 27 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Can't see Butterfield going. I think he will be very influential this year, particularly as l expect we will have a good CDM behind him ( hope it is Whelan personally, and let Thorne inch himself back). Not sure why everyone is so down, although l guess when it comes to thinking of the 2013/14 campaign my only thought is where did those last 3 years go. My only worry of Thorne is Butters is will they get in each other's way or will one have to play within themselves to let the other flourish? Fittness could potentially be an issue as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I dont think it will be long until Keogh Christie and Ince are gone, then the likes of Blackman Weimann Pearce and Shackell may go if there are any interested teams. I wouldnt be shocked to see Bent have his contract cancelled like Camara's. We can only move players on if teams are interested, I dont think its down to us holding back on deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, cannable said: My only worry of Thorne is Butters is will they get in each other's way or will one have to play within themselves to let the other flourish? Fittness could potentially be an issue as well. Butters, Thorne and Johnson were fine in 2015/16. All scored goals, we were solid defensively, Butters was able to go and do his thing and link with Martin. Carson Wisdom Keogh Davies Forsyth Thorne Butterfield Johnson Ince Russell Martin That is a better side than last seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Warren Hobhead said: Butters, Thorne and Johnson were fine in 2015/16. All scored goals, we were solid defensively, Butters was able to go and do his thing and link with Martin. Carson Wisdom Keogh Davies Forsyth Thorne Butterfield Johnson Ince Russell Martin That is a better side than last seasons. I'd argue that Butters is better in the controlling role and with another two doing his tackling for him. I still think the 15/16 Butters was limited. Who knows, it was BJ and George rotating back then when I probably should have been Butters and George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, Warren Hobhead said: Butters, Thorne and Johnson were fine in 2015/16. All scored goals, we were solid defensively, Butters was able to go and do his thing and link with Martin. Carson Wisdom Keogh Davies Forsyth Thorne Butterfield Johnson Ince Russell Martin That is a better side than last seasons. Eh ? And no Nugent ? Best quality live wire we have had in a long while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 22 minutes ago, Warren Hobhead said: Butters, Thorne and Johnson were fine in 2015/16. All scored goals, we were solid defensively, Butters was able to go and do his thing and link with Martin. Carson Wisdom Keogh Davies Forsyth Thorne Butterfield Johnson Ince Russell Martin That is a better side than last seasons. Looking at that, we are lacking a centre mid option and a starting left wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 36 minutes ago, cannable said: I'd argue that Butters is better in the controlling role and with another two doing his tackling for him. I still think the 15/16 Butters was limited. Who knows, it was BJ and George rotating back then when I probably should have been Butters and George. I like him further forward with license to link with the forwards and get his shots off. But you're right probably that his better days last season were deeper. The way he changed that Bristol game for example was something else. Just by getting on the ball and getting us playing. Against Wolves too he bossed it from deep. But he's poor defensively. He can get stuck in but he's hardly a tackler and in the air I reckon a dwarf would beat him. Thorne has to be the one sitting in, surely? Let Butters and Johnson bomb on. Bryson is in the mix too of course. Despite the Hughes hoo-ha, we do have four very good options in there. I think we will see one more added, Whelan perhaps? Then you've the youngsters. I might be wrong, maybe Butters is one of the others that GR might want to shift on. But I doubt it. I reckon he rates him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 39 minutes ago, jono said: Eh ? And no Nugent ? Best quality live wire we have had in a long while I like Nugent but who do you drop for him? You could move Johnson alongside Thorne perhaps and have Nuge in the hole. But as much as I like him, he's never starting ahead of Martin in my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 29 minutes ago, Shuff264 said: Looking at that, we are lacking a centre mid option and a starting left wing Bryson and one more (Whelan?). And I agree on the wings. I'd like one for either flank. I don't rate Anya. I know we were beaten to Watkins who chose Norwich. He'd have been ideal. Big, strong winger with pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 14 minutes ago, Warren Hobhead said: I like Nugent but who do you drop for him? You could move Johnson alongside Thorne perhaps and have Nuge in the hole. But as much as I like him, he's never starting ahead of Martin in my team. I agree that Martin is the perfect fulcrum but I think we need a 4231 Someone behind Martin with intent and drive. Nugent or Vydra might just what we need. Martin will reintroduce genuine holdup play. We don't have a pair of running midfielders al la Bryson (ok he is still there but not the same IMO) and Hendrick. He needs intent close to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 47 minutes ago, jono said: I agree that Martin is the perfect fulcrum but I think we need a 4231 Someone behind Martin with intent and drive. Nugent or Vydra might just what we need. Martin will reintroduce genuine holdup play. We don't have a pair of running midfielders al la Bryson (ok he is still there but not the same IMO) and Hendrick. He needs intent close to him. It will be horses for courses as GR suggested earlier. He wants players who can adapt and play in multiple positions. Fingers crossed he gets what he needs in this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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