TigerTedd Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: @David Fair enough and I understand that. I could never leave the beauty and utter simplicity of my touchscreen Windows laptop for the bizarre and terrible touchstrip at the back of the keyboard of the MacBook Pro. But each to their own. I have a friend who thinks my MacBook Pro is crap cos it doesn't have a touch screen, and can't understand why it doesn't. At my work the two girls their both have touch screen lenovos, and both have asked me to turn the touch screen off, cos it's nothing but trouble. i asked in the Apple shop why Apple would never do a touch screen they are, after all, the innovators of the modern touch experience, seems like it would be something they're all over. But it's just not natural. You don't poke and prod your tv screen (unless you're a two year old with sticky fingers). And any lap top doesn't have the support behind the screen, so it ends up flapping and wobbling about when you're prodding away at it. A very good touch pad is so much better. Means your hands never have to leave the keyboard area. ill admit though, I'm still getting used to the touch bar, and there's been occasions where I've pressed send on an email before I'm ready. But I'm getting there, there's quite a few things I use it for now. i find that most people who dislike Apple have never actually used it. They are too set in the windows / android mindset, and think the transition would be too difficult. That was me about 7 years ago. I refused to buy my wife an iPod because wouldn't touch Apple with a barge pole. As soon as I took the plunge and made the change, though, I would absolutely never go back. we have done Windows pcs in my office. Downloading update 34 of 5906 is still very much a thing. Delayed the opening time of my clinic by about half an hour the other day. There's two or three bits of third party software that open automatically that I don't understand what they are, or what they do, but they give me error messages. Just have to cancel them. No idea what they add to the experience. And that was fresh out of the box. and paying s subscriptions for for office 365. What's that all about? People say Apple is expensive, but you get their office suite for free, and annual updates of all the software for free, and the kit lasts longer, with far higher build quality. So actually, after you've owned it for 5 years, and it's still going strong, it's starts to become pretty good value. The girls in the office are looking to replace their lenovos after 1.5 years, because the 3rd party software has just clogged them up so much. There emails never work, their internet never works. Everything just works on mine open the lid, and off I go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I've never changed the theme or font! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, ketteringram said: I've never changed the theme or font! So why have an android? I thought it was all about customisation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: So why have an android? I thought it was all about customisation? Is that a serious question?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 There are less bugs on appletrees than that operating system, how many betas did the last one go through and still came out bugged? Android nearly as bad, just wish consumers didn't buy the BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, McRamFan said: There are less bugs on appletrees than that operating system, how many betas did the last one go through and still came out bugged? Android nearly as bad, just wish consumers didn't buy the BS. Is there a set number of betas software should have? This forum software alone had around 20 before being officially released and still came with bugs. Just another hater pop, scraping that barrel ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Have had both Apple and Android (Sony Xperia). Apple: Daveo is right about the feel of iOS. The apps work much better and the feeling of quality is evident. Android: I use Google for everything. Sheets, Calendar, Browsing, Mail, Drive, Keep etc etc. Which in my opinion are better than the Apple equivalents. Sony itself had a much better quality music sound when being bluetooth streamed to car or speaker, and on headphones, than iPhone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 It took 35 minutes to be able to start doing my job last Monday as I was waiting for windows to perform an update. Why do they have no way of stopping that crap? I'm not a fully paid up member of the Apple church but having used both there's no contest. Apple just works in a beautifully intuitive way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 2 hours ago, David said: Is there a set number of betas software should have? This forum software alone had around 20 before being officially released and still came with bugs. Just another hater pop, scraping that barrel ? Not a hater pop at all. Just a reflection on how people just accept crappy OS, forum, CRM etc. Only in this field is such BS put up with. Imagine if it was the same for TVs, cars, anything that used a computer programme...can't see cars owners sitting in their car on a Monday morning waiting for an update before they can start the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 34 minutes ago, McRamFan said: Not a hater pop at all. Just a reflection on how people just accept crappy OS, forum, CRM etc. Only in this field is such BS put up with. Imagine if it was the same for TVs, cars, anything that used a computer programme...can't see cars owners sitting in their car on a Monday morning waiting for an update before they can start the engine. You are wrong. All software be it TV's, Cars, Planes, Phones goes through Alpha and Beta testing before being released to the public, the number of betas is irrelevant as long as the finished product is acceptable. You will not find a bug free piece of software anywhere as it is always evolving. Oh Apple have had 10 betas, must be crap, wrong. In fact it could be said that more the better as it shows how fast they are working on releasing the best software they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 hours ago, David said: All software be it TV's, Cars, Planes, Phones goes through Alpha and Beta testing before being released to the public I can testify to this. Software in cars I am working on have taken about 5 years of testing and tweaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 6 hours ago, ketteringram said: Is that a serious question?? Yes. The biggest argument against iOS is that you can't customise it. Those that use argue, that's fine by me, why would I want to much about with something that is damn near perfect. But if customisation is your bag, then android is for you. If you're not going to customise android. What does it actually have over iOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: Yes. The biggest argument against iOS is that you can't customise it. Those that use argue, that's fine by me, why would I want to much about with something that is damn near perfect. But if customisation is your bag, then android is for you. If you're not going to customise android. What does it actually have over iOS? Can your iPhone have two apps open on the same screen yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Joe. said: Can your iPhone have two apps open on the same screen yet? Yes. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 40 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: Yes. The biggest argument against iOS is that you can't customise it. Those that use argue, that's fine by me, why would I want to much about with something that is damn near perfect. But if customisation is your bag, then android is for you. If you're not going to customise android. What does it actually have over iOS? So....... Because I don't want to 'customise', I shouldn't have an android phone. Righty O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, ketteringram said: So....... Because I don't want to 'customise', I shouldn't have an android phone. Righty O. Yes, I'm glad you're on my wavelength. I can see no other reason to want an android phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarboroughwa Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: Yes, I'm glad you're on my wavelength. I can see no other reason to want an android phone. Other than they're better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 51 minutes ago, scarboroughwa said: Other than they're better? That is an opinion. And a wrong one. This is fun. It's like arguing with Forest fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarboroughwa Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Cool. My favourite is the Black one. Forest that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 New Apple Watch has cellular, works without your phone in range as it has a SIM card inside, uses your usual number. Watch OS impressive, now alerts you if you have a irregular heart beat whilst tracking your resting/recovering heart rate. Boycie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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