Curtains Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Rowett was talking about having two different groups if he has to. One group he wants and the other group he doesn't Difficult to get people out with contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Have you ever thought there might be an element of kidology when Rowett talks about big changes to come? Could he be looking for a reaction from certain players to see if they are up for the challenge he is about to lay down? No doubt there will be departures and I expect either Will or Tom to go, but I don't think we will see wholesale changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Have you ever thought there might be an element of kidology when Rowett talks about big changes to come? Could he be looking for a reaction from certain players to see if they are up for the challenge he is about to lay down? No doubt there will be departures and I expect either Will or Tom to go, but I don't think we will see wholesale changes. Why sell the best players what is the sense in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Why did Tottenham sell Bale? Why did Liverpool sell Suarez? Etc etc Having good business sense is knowing when to sell. You may say that Tottenham selling their best player was the catalyst to them becoming a top 4 club. If we didn't sell our best players where will the funds come from for this big rebuild if it happens? You just said it will be hard to shift players on big contracts if people don't want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 We are not hard up as a club so selling Tom or Will would be ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I don't think we need a big re build martin, Thorne and Fozzy are letting getting 3 new class players back for free. Add 3 quality loans in the ilk of Mooy, Abraham, kalas etc. There's 6 new players 3 of our own and 3 with no/minimal outlay and zero risk. ship out bent, Blackman, Camara, Pearce, Weiman butters, Hanson rawson Bryson Christie and Olson. That's around £10 mil in transfer fees and about the same in wage savings. depending on your loans we definitely need a RB, CDM and LW piece of piss this football manager malarky ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Why did Tottenham sell Bale? Why did Liverpool sell Suarez? Etc etc Having good business sense is knowing when to sell. You may say that Tottenham selling their best player was the catalyst to them becoming a top 4 club. If we didn't sell our best players where will the funds come from for this big rebuild if it happens? You just said it will be hard to shift players on big contracts if people don't want them. You could argue that both of them selling their best player made them worse off. Spurs finished 5th in Bale's final season and finished 6th the year after then 5th when Kane broke into the first team. Liverpool finished 2nd in Suarez's last season and 6th the following season, then 8th and this season between 3rd and 5th. Both teams have spent vast amounts of money and made the team weaker with their surplus of cash. They had to pay big for players that just were not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, rynny said: You could argue that both of them selling their best player made them worse off. Spurs finished 5th in Bale's final season and finished 6th the year after then 5th when Kane broke into the first team. Liverpool finished 2nd in Suarez's last season and 6th the following season, then 8th and this season between 3rd and 5th. Both teams have spent vast amounts of money and made the team weaker with their surplus of cash. They had to pay big for players that just were not good enough. To be fair we do seem to be a club that does not sell players when they are at their most sellable as in cash wise, well that is my feeling anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sparkle said: To be fair we do seem to be a club that does not sell players when they are at their most sellable as in cash wise, well that is my feeling anyway Hendrick ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Can someone please post a full squad list of those who you think will be here for pre-season, and include areas we might bring in a new face. The last thread discussing this is dangerously close to slipping down to the second page with the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 51 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Why did Tottenham sell Bale? Why did Liverpool sell Suarez? Etc etc Having good business sense is knowing when to sell. You may say that Tottenham selling their best player was the catalyst to them becoming a top 4 club. If we didn't sell our best players where will the funds come from for this big rebuild if it happens? You just said it will be hard to shift players on big contracts if people don't want them. Whilst I agree we will sell if the right offer comes in. I think selling your best player is a short term move. Both Spurs and Liverpool are the nearly men of premiership football, especially Spurs. If they still had Bale they would in my opinion have been champions last year or this. They will remain nearly men unless they buy an outstanding player so haven't gained. I still think your best player in the championship should be the centre forward. I am sure if we get big money for Will and buy the best centre forward available, we would be a better team. Or at least a more successful team in this division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, cosmic said: Can someone please post a full squad list of those who you think will be here for pre-season, and include areas we might bring in a new face. The last thread discussing this is dangerously close to slipping down to the second page with the others. Carson, MitchellChristie, Baird, new^ Keogh, Pearce, Shackell, new* Forsyth, Lowe, Olsson Thorne, Johnson, Hughes, Bryson, Butterfield Ince, Anya, Russell, new, Weimann, Camara Martin, Nugent, Vydra, Bent, Blackman Italics, out. Gives a core of 23 seniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Why did Tottenham sell Bale? Why did Liverpool sell Suarez? Etc etc Having good business sense is knowing when to sell. You may say that Tottenham selling their best player was the catalyst to them becoming a top 4 club. If we didn't sell our best players where will the funds come from for this big rebuild if it happens? You just said it will be hard to shift players on big contracts if people don't want them. Im pretty sure, but correct me if im wrong that spurs spunked the money for bale up the wall on quite a few average players bar erikson the emergence of harry kane and a one Mauricio potechino has been their catalyst into the top four but i hear what your saying re selling for good business boils down to do we trust gaz raz i do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, curtains said: Why sell the best players what is the sense in that. If they want to leave? Hendrick left because he wanted to try the Premier League and we were offered a fair fee for him I would imagine if the same situation arise with either Hughes or Ince the same might happen - We've been promising the possibility of Premier League football for 4 years now - Since Hughes was 18 - I can imagine them being a little skeptical that it's as easy as they were told previously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 4 hours ago, curtains said: Hendrick ! Yep, it's not a big list is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, NottsRam77 said: Im pretty sure, but correct me if im wrong that spurs spunked the money for bale up the wall on quite a few average players bar erikson the emergence of harry kane and a one Mauricio potechino has been their catalyst into the top four but i hear what your saying re selling for good business boils down to do we trust gaz raz i do To be honest I plucked the Spurs comparison out of my arse, Curtains asked why anyone would sell their best player and I could only think of Suarez and Bale off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 28 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Yep, it's not a big list is it? Very true but we got 12 million profit on Hendrick. Wish we still had him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: To be honest I plucked the Spurs comparison out of my arse, Curtains asked why anyone would sell their best player and I could only think of Suarez and Bale off the top of my head. Fair play buddy they are good examples whichever way u look at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The_Sheriff Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 6 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Why did Tottenham sell Bale? Why did Liverpool sell Suarez? Etc etc Having good business sense is knowing when to sell. You may say that Tottenham selling their best player was the catalyst to them becoming a top 4 club. If we didn't sell our best players where will the funds come from for this big rebuild if it happens? You just said it will be hard to shift players on big contracts if people don't want them. I would argue if they had bale with the current team they would win the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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