I suggest Mel has got it right with Gary Rowett

[rynny]

14 minutes ago, Ninos said:

Don't underestimate Derby fans at the game. Everyone around me is pretty smart. No one is getting carried away. We saw that for what it was: a real manager-driven tactically astute performance, thus the patience until the goal. We went forward and with purpose.  Rowett articulated his plan on sky and in his other interviews. There were many aspects. 

It wasn't just a home win it was a lot more ... which is why everyone is rocking today

I wasn't on about at the game though. I am on about on here, this thread. It was a very good performance, close to being the best of the season, I am not denying that, I am not saying don't enjoy the game, or you shouldn't still be happy or rocking or whatever. I am on about how saying Rowett has been brought in as the saviour is too early to make that call.

[Ellafella]

6 minutes ago, McLovin said:

See what I mean? It's already started to cloud people's judgements. We need at least 5 or 6 new quality players whilst selling the likes of Camara, Blackman, Weimann etc to free up funds. Rowett's a smart man and can see where we need to improve though. We need at the very, very least a new RB, new cb, new cdm(possibly 2 depending on Thorne) and a left winger.

All quite debatable Sir...we do though need to stop leaving opposition strikers completely free at set pieces. Perhap a bit more MacKay-esque leadership from some. 

[Mafiabob]

4 minutes ago, McLovin said:

See what I mean? It's already started to cloud people's judgements. We need at least 5 or 6 new quality players whilst selling the likes of Camara, Blackman, Weimann etc to free up funds. Rowett's a smart man and can see where we need to improve though. We need at the very, very least a new RB, new cb, new cdm(possibly 2 depending on Thorne) and a left winger.

Johnson more than capable. 

Keogh and Pearce more than capable (Shack and agree one other maybe.)

Depending on Baird, agree possible cover.

What people are seem to forgetting what's needed most is stability.....

[rynny]

12 minutes ago, Ellafella said:

Loved the way you smack that half-volley to the mid-off boundary. No need to chase the ball, it was a 4 as soon as it hit the willow. Go on, just take 2 paces up the wicket and gently, with one prod, just tap the wicket and give yourself a wee smile. 

It would have been a great reply other than the fact he didn't actually read what I was saying and instead of twisting it to make an argument out of something I didn't say.

[RoyMac5]

11 minutes ago, curtains said:

Rebuild is not that big now we have a decent manager. 

3 or 4 new faces needed that's all in key areas. 

Deja vu.

[Ninos]

2 minutes ago, rynny said:

I wasn't on about at the game though. I am on about on here, this thread. It was a very good performance, close to being the best of the season, I am not denying that, I am not saying don't enjoy the game, or you shouldn't still be happy or rocking or whatever. I am on about how saying Rowett has been brought in as the saviour is too early to make that call.

Dont know about savior but we can agree that it was something special and that something special came from the manager and his directive and impact on the players. And I wouldn't expect any different on Tues.

[Ellafella]

3 minutes ago, Mafiabob said:

Johnson more than capable. 

Keogh and Pearce more than capable (Shack and agree one other maybe.)

Depending on Baird, agree possible cover.

What people are seem to forgetting what's needed most is stability.....

I suspect that Baird may have just done enough to get a new contract...we are more compact and solid with Baird at right F-B. 

[Curtains]

3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Deja vu.

No realistic 

[Sexydadbod]

5 minutes ago, Mafiabob said:

Johnson more than capable. 

Keogh and Pearce more than capable (Shack and agree one other maybe.)

Depending on Baird, agree possible cover.

What people are seem to forgetting what's needed most is stability.....

Johnson is more than capable I agree but we need another cdm because he isn't a natural there, Rowett pretty much said the same after the game as he likes playing further forward. I love Thorne but he is riddled with bad luck. For me, we need to treat it like he's not here and if he does get back to what he was then that's a bonus.

I'd sell Shackell because he is getting old and I imagine he is on quite big wages. I don't trust Pearce at all, he has a lot of passion but in the long run he is a bit of a liability. Those who saw us away against Norwich  will agree.

Stability only works if you have a good platform to build on. Accrington Stanley( don't know if they do or not) may have stability but it doesn't mean they are world beaters.

[RoyMac5]

Just now, Ninos said:

Dont know about savior but we can agree that it was something special and that something special came from the manager and his directive and impact on the players. And I wouldn't expect any different on Tues.

We were lucky by a posts width not to settle for another draw. You seem to be some sort of manic (GR) depressive (CM), there is a balance of thought you know.

[rynny]

Just now, Ninos said:

Dont know about savior but we can agree that it was something special and that something special came from the manager and his directive and impact on the players. And I wouldn't expect any different on Tues.

It is this post, the original one from curtains that I am about.

1 hour ago, curtains said:

Could just be Mel has saved DCFC 

Well done Mel that decision took courage. 

Whilst not directly calling Rowett the saviour, it is what he is alluding to.

[Curtains]

15 minutes ago, David said:

Behave, Scartho Top, one of the more desirable areas in this town shall we say

Alternative route to the Cleathorpes and the fitties.

Happy Days I'm back again thanks M8 I'll try and stay cool  

 

[Mafiabob]

1 minute ago, McLovin said:

Johnson is more than capable I agree but we need another cdm because he isn't a natural there, Rowett pretty much said the same after the game as he likes playing further forward. I love Thorne but he is riddled with bad luck. For me, we need to treat it like he's not here and if he does get back to what he was then that's a bonus.

I'd sell Shackell because he is getting old and I imagine he is on quit big wages. I don't trust Pearce at all, he has a lot of passion but in the league no run he is a bit of a liability. Those who saw us away against Norwich away will agree.

Stability only works if you have a good platform to build on. Accrington Stanley( don't know if they do or not) may have stability but it doesn't mean they are world beaters.

Not being funny, but unless happy with a massive loss on him..... Shacks ain't going anywhere.

Not sure where we are going to get all these upgrades from. I'm guessing loans will be the way forward next season and using that smartly.

Stability is massively important..... crying out for no change behind the scenes..... think it's a case of tinkering with a few departures..... 

Dont get the obsession with CDM..... or Martin. 

[Ninos]

4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

We were lucky by a posts width not to settle for another draw. You seem to be some sort of manic (GR) depressive (CM), there is a balance of thought you know.

Performance not the result. QPR under GR - manic ; brighton under mac - suicidally depressing ! 

[Sexydadbod]

5 minutes ago, Mafiabob said:

Not being funny, but unless happy with a massive loss on him..... Shacks ain't going anywhere.

Not sure where we are going to get all these upgrades from. I'm guessing loans will be the way forward next season and using that smartly.

Stability is massively important..... crying out for no change behind the scenes..... think it's a case of tinkering with a few departures..... 

Dont get the obsession with CDM..... or Martin. 

Shacks was linked with the MLS in January according to some ITKs. Would make sense if an MLS team came in him and he would be tempted I imagine  his Mrs is American. As for Martin, I'm not really bothered either way, I know his strengths and weaknesses but I wouldn't lose any sleep if we lost him or keep him. 

Finally, your point on the cdm is a bit silly. Of course CDM is an important position so it's no surprise that I'm obsessed with it , if you don't have at least one specialised cdm on the pitch then you're asking for trouble. All the best team's in the world play with Cdms because it's what makes their teams balanced, e.g Bayern with Alonso, Real Madrid with Casemiro, Barcelona with Busquets.

[Mafiabob]

3 minutes ago, McLovin said:

Shacks was linked with the MLS in January according to some ITKs. Would make sense if an MLS team came in him and he would be tempted I imagine  his Mrs is American. As for Martin, I'm not really bothered either way, I know his strengths and weaknesses but I wouldn't lose any sleep if we lost him or keep him. 

Finally, your point on the cdm is a bit silly. Of course CDM is an important position so it's no surprise that I'm obsessed with it , if you don't have at least one specialised cdm on the pitch then you're asking for trouble. All the best team's in the world play with Cdms because it's what makes their teams balanced, e.g Bayern with Alonso, Real Madrid with Casemiro, Barcelona with Busquets.

It's not as important as you think..... the tempo is where it's at nowadays, especially in this league...... passing teams to death  may work for the very best teams... we are where we are, defend from the front, harrass and bully..... make the mark. 

Nowt good looking pretty when we can't finish teams off doing this..... 

Was encouraged last night. Team more important than individuals.....

[Mostyn6]

as much as I love Rowett, there was really little difference in performances and the only difference really was QPR hit the post at the end of the game instead of scoring.

Far too soon for such happy-clapping.

[valleyram]

2 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said:

as much as I love Rowett, there was really little difference in performances and the only difference really was QPR hit the post at the end of the game instead of scoring.

Far too soon for such happy-clapping.

U would say that , the second half performance at city ground and last night was night and day to the pish served up by mclaren dross 

[Curtains]

4 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said:

as much as I love Rowett, there was really little difference in performances and the only difference really was QPR hit the post at the end of the game instead of scoring.

Far too soon for such happy-clapping.

Bookmarked. 

[RodleyRam]

I haven't read the whole thread so forgive me if it's been covered.

We've played two games...

The signs are positive, I like what I've seen, I am hopeful but can we possibly just hold our horses before we recommend the poor bloke for a knighthood?

@curtainsRemember tgat whole ridiculous situation where you said the appointment of mac2 was ridiculous, then genius, then ridiculous in the space of about 10 games? Yeah? Can we try to avoid that do we think?

Over the last 5 years we've swung wildly from Champions League potential to relegation fodder (fans opinions). It's great we are excited but the sensationalisation is so unhelpful and we never seem to learn as fans. It's got to the point where it just feels irresponsible and we're a big part of the whole ridiculous feast and famine roller coaster.

It's obviously worse when we're on a downturn and I wouldn't want to stunt anyone's enthusiasm but it's been two games. Two games. What if we lose the next two? Will it be time to avoid sharp objects again?

Can we not just be optimistic and pleased we look to be improving? Can we also try to remember this positivity when we lose too? It'll be better for the club in the long run if we can, because GR is going to need consistent, steady support here. If we think he's the right choice (and the vast majority do) can we just think about the roll we play in that and supporting him properly and consistently through the inevitable ups and downs?