sage Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 If you were Mel (and Sam) would you have sacked the following managers at point he did? Nigel Clough Steve McClaren Paul Clement Nigel Pearson Steve McClaren II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Clough yes. McClaren, debatable this one, I probably at the time would have sacked him. Clement, no. Pearson, I would have given him longer. Mac 2, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Don't know enough of the circumstances to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, sage said: If you were Mel (and Sam) would you have sacked the following managers at point he did? Nigel Clough Steve McClaren Paul Clement Nigel Pearson Steve McClaren II No No No Yes No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, sage said: I If you were Mel (and Sam) would you have sacked the following managers at point he did? Nigel Clough - No, it was classless to sack him after the Forest match. I'd have done it earlier in pre-season, or midweek a few weeks later. Steve McClaren - No, he deserved the chance to rid the squad of those that had just let him and us down. We still carry those players. Paul Clement - No, but I would've been close. Maybe a couple more games. I judge him as the right man at maybe the slightly wrong time, but the signs were alarming, as were the transfers. Nigel Pearson - I'd have been in there earlier with a swift pep-talk about gradual change, and not deluded expectation that you can turn it around so easily and quickly. It was ridiculous and arrogant of Pearson to think he could change things so easily. I perhaps would have sacked him too. Steve McClaren II - No, for me this was classless. McClaren deserves more respect for instigating the pleasure that bought love for football back to a lot of fans. He is clearly disliked by Mel, and this appointment was a Sam Rush appointment. He deserved better treatment than having a gun hanging over his head and he still never got the chance to rid the club of those that undermine our ambitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Which ones are we saying slept with Tyrone Mears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 No Yes Yes People are misty eyed about PC because he is doing ok at Swansea, it won't last. Yes Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Nigel Clough No - Would have done it a lot earlier Steve McClaren Noyessssnooo - I think he should have resigned in all honesty, wanted the Newcastle job, go for it. Paul Clement No - Even after hearing all the issues and not finding the football particularly entertaining, I still would have given him the full season before reviewing the job. Nigel Pearson Yes - I always say a manager should be given a season, Pearson is the exception to this. Disaster. Steve McClaren II No - First rocky patch since he arrived and shown the door, that can't be right. Seasons already over, contract up next summer I would have given him the full season to bring the changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Clough Yes, (unfortunately and sadly) We were just weren't going anywhere, too many years of mediocrity . McClaren (1) Yes (brought it on himself with the 'Newcastle' incident) . Clement No (but we don't know what went on behind the scenes). Pearson Undecided, (would have liked to have given him longer but we were on the cusp of the relegation places when he left.Results/behavior gave Mel no choice). McClaren (2) Yes, recent form gave Mel a decision to make. Was he going trust McClaren with more time to get it right and the Summer transfer money. (His decision was No). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 25 minutes ago, sage said: If you were Mel (and Sam) would you have sacked the following managers at point he did? Nigel Clough Steve McClaren Paul Clement Nigel Pearson Steve McClaren II Nigel Clough - Would have done it in the summer, or at least at a less sensitive moment Steve McClaren - Should of resigned, but yes. Paul Clement - Nope. Deserved (at the very least) until the end of the season. Nigel Pearson - I would have given him until the end of November. If it was still all going awfully, I'd have got rid, to give the new manager time to assess the squad and prepare for the January window. Steve McClaren - At the end of the season I would have. But with Rowett available, I can understand in retrospect why we did it now. Not that that makes it OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Clough - No but in hindsight it was probably about the right time. If I was him I wouldn't have had the colonies. Mac - Yes I would have done, but in hindsight it was probably the wrong time. Clement - Nope. No more to say on that. Pearson - I would never have hired him, but I suppose that means yes. Mac II - Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Nigel Clough - Yes. I'd had enough by that time - as had thousands of no-show fans Steve McClaren - Probably, yes. Not an easy one though. Paul Clement - Yes. Showed no inclination to play the expansive football he must have agreed to in order to get the job & was no longer able to hide behind decent results. Nigel Pearson - I'd have given him a bit more time results-wise but only out of disbelief that he could have made us that bad. Steve McClaren II - No. The season is over. We're not going up or down & I didn't see the harm of letting him try to turn it round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Clough - Yes, was giving way too much time with the club and should've gone a year earlier. McClaren - No, awful decision as Mac was the man who got us challenging at the top of the table and wouldn't have wasted so much money Clement - No, embarrassing sacking him when we were 5th and looks even worse seeing how well he is doing at Swansea Pearson - Yes, the wrong appointment entirely and was a stubborn fool who would've take us to league 1 McClaren - No, another embarrassing decision sacking him after his first poor spell which was always inevitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 48 minutes ago, sage said: If you were Mel (and Sam) would you have sacked the following managers at point he did? Nigel Clough Steve McClaren Paul Clement Nigel Pearson Steve McClaren II Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Well done in making the difficult decisions Mel, it's never easy to fire someone (talking from experience) ? But it's all to easy to criticise from the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Clough yes ,poor football McLaren yes,treacherous sod. Clement yes,he should never been have employed,no top guy experience. Pearson yes,awful style of football. McLaren yes,should not have been re-employed, sheer folly to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Clough - Yes - we were going nowhere and I no longer cared, for the first time in 34 years. McLaren - No - He should have had a bollocking from MM and told to focus on DCFC or else. Clement - No - He deserved to have the rest of the season to turn it round. Pearson - Yes - The football was clueless and horrible. McClaren - No - He wasn't given anything like a fair chance - idiotic decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 hour ago, sage said: If you were Mel (and Sam) would you have sacked the following managers at point he did? Nigel Clough Steve McClaren Paul Clement Nigel Pearson Steve McClaren II Nigel.. Was not Mel? But yes had run his course. Sam was right.. McClaren.. Yes had to Clement .. No, no and no.. Pearson.. Should never have been appointed. McClaren.. Should never have been appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrm14 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 hour ago, sage said: If you were Mel (and Sam) would you have sacked the following managers at point he did? Nigel Clough Steve McClaren Paul Clement Nigel Pearson Steve McClaren II Yes, he'd taken us as far as he could. Yes, he snaked us quite badly. Maybe, very hard one. We were in freefall and he was ignoring the remit he was hired upon so maybe yes, really hard to call though. He was on the cusp of getting sacked either way, perhaps a bit more time would have been warranted. Definitely yes, should not have hired him in the first place. Definitely no. almost as bad as hiring Pearson for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrm14 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, swiftur said: Clough yes ,poor football McLaren yes,treacherous sod. Clement yes,he should never been have employed,no top guy experience. Pearson yes,awful style of football. McLaren yes,should not have been re-employed, sheer folly to do so. Could you elaborate on this one? I'm genuinely curious. Were you content with us being in the relegation zone and despised it when he got us on that absurd winning streak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 54 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Nigel Clough - Would have done it in the summer, or at least at a less sensitive moment Steve McClaren - Should of resigned, but yes. Paul Clement - Nope. Deserved (at the very least) until the end of the season. Nigel Pearson - I would have given him until the end of November. If it was still all going awfully, I'd have got rid, to give the new manager time to assess the squad and prepare for the January window. Steve McClaren - At the end of the season I would have. But with Rowett available, I can understand in retrospect why we did it now. Not that that makes it OK. Nuwtfly is as close as I can get to the Famous (in the East Midlands) Five (ok two Macs I know ). Always liked Clement but 'stuff' was rumoured I guess away from the turf.... And he's a sharp dressed fella, cool dude..... just like Mr R! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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