Kennington Ram Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I want to see a playing squad that looks like it's best days are still to come, rather than looking like fading remnants of something I use to like. Players outside of Ince, Keogh, Pearce and Baird who turn up more than once a month. The moon on a stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I hope for a team we can be proud of again, players who come of the pitch having put a shift in. I don't expect many new players arriving, my personal conspiracy theory is Maclaren was sacked because he wanted to spend big money rebuilding the squad in the summer, whereas Morris is trying another man in Rowett to see if he can hopefully get the current lot playing. I could be wrong Either way, I look forward to seeing what Rowett can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 34 minutes ago, GerryDaly said: Promotion. Hull Burnlerh Stoke Sweansee Bournmouth west brom watford The list goes on ........ It's embarrassing . What's embarrassing about those clubs? There's FA cup finals, European football, league titles and £20m players in that lot. Until last year or whatever our record transfer fee was what? £3m/ £4m Believe it or not only the fans of clubs with high attendances care about attendances. No players, referees or anyone else cares. I mean AC Milan were getting 30k at some games. Villarreal get what? 18k? Besiktas used to have 30k and compare their 30k to ours. That's closer to embarrassing. That they can support their team like that and we have never had that. We were getting what? 15k in 1996? Keep seeing you say stuff about these smaller clubs or lesser clubs and I have no idea what you base it on. Derby are a big deal to us. In the football world they're a 2nd tier team. Nobody remembers Jim Smith or Eranio. Nobody knows we finished 8th. And it's the football world where we compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 What a great thread, I reckon champions league runners up but he can stay if he wins it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerryDaly Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 On 14/03/2017 at 19:56, Alpha said: What's embarrassing about those clubs? There's FA cup finals, European football, league titles and £20m players in that lot. Until last year or whatever our record transfer fee was what? £3m/ £4m Believe it or not only the fans of clubs with high attendances care about attendances. No players, referees or anyone else cares. I mean AC Milan were getting 30k at some games. Villarreal get what? 18k? Besiktas used to have 30k and compare their 30k to ours. That's closer to embarrassing. That they can support their team like that and we have never had that. We were getting what? 15k in 1996? Keep seeing you say stuff about these smaller clubs or lesser clubs and I have no idea what you base it on. Derby are a big deal to us. In the football world they're a 2nd tier team. Nobody remembers Jim Smith or Eranio. Nobody knows we finished 8th. And it's the football world where we compete. Derby County belong in the first tier of English Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 On 14 March 2017 at 19:56, Alpha said: What's embarrassing about those clubs? There's FA cup finals, European football, league titles and £20m players in that lot. Until last year or whatever our record transfer fee was what? £3m/ £4m Believe it or not only the fans of clubs with high attendances care about attendances. No players, referees or anyone else cares. I mean AC Milan were getting 30k at some games. Villarreal get what? 18k? Besiktas used to have 30k and compare their 30k to ours. That's closer to embarrassing. That they can support their team like that and we have never had that. We were getting what? 15k in 1996? Keep seeing you say stuff about these smaller clubs or lesser clubs and I have no idea what you base it on. Derby are a big deal to us. In the football world they're a 2nd tier team. Nobody remembers Jim Smith or Eranio. Nobody knows we finished 8th. And it's the football world where we compete. That's true. The sad thing is can any of us say we are likely in our lifetimes to see Derby do anything of note? Great if you were alive in the 40s/70s but its now over 40 years since last major cup win.... We are only big in terms of being well supported, but lots of other teams winning things and we do absolutely nothing- Wigan FA cup in recent memory, Swansea league cup suddenly Leicester are a successful team... Don't want to be pessimistic but I honestly don't think Derby will win another major trophy while I'm alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 It's a tough question as any prolonged bad run has shown that us fans, including Morris, get twitchy and call for the manager to be sacked. I think it took McClaren a week of bad results for the fans to turn, which is exactly what will happen with Rowett should it not go all swimmingly. I have no doubt that Rowett has a completely different remit and we will be looking to lower the wage bill, get rid of some of the high earners and bring in players on the cheap. I would suggest similarly to what Clough's task was under the Americans, however, with a much larger budget. It's going to be a tough, busy summer for Rowett and co. I actually think a lot will be made of his signings. We will be losing first-team players in the summer, that I have no doubt. I don't know who, but I'd be surprised not to see possibly 8-10 of our regular matchday squad sold and replaced. We've just got to make sure those we bring in have the quality. I know it's all fun and games moaning about being awful and a laughing stock, but we're a top half side as it stands. If we lose the likes of Keogh & Ince and replace them with players with the quality like Albentosa & Camara, we're going to feel the significant effect and see how life could be worse. The grass could definitely be greener, don't get me wrong, but it could also get much, much, much bleaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 It will interesting if Rowett performs moderately well ie 7th to 10th to see if Morris will be more patient this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantona Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 England call-up for Jason Shackell to form a three-man defence with Michael Keane and Gary Cahill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 "When two threads go to war" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 The cynic in thinks we shouldn't think how long he will last, rather wht Mel the Merciless will sack him. Poor results, not playing attacking football or sleeping with @David? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I prefer Dave's thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, ramsbottom said: I prefer Dave's thread... May the fleas of a 1000 camels infest your armpits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 I think we will probably have to revisit this just before the season starts. See what squad we have. A massive cull of older expensive players being replaced by a few youngsters may soften people's expectations a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Baffles me some peoples expectations of coarse we should aim high but hope to god if/ when we're not ripping sides apart and smack bang in the mix of the play offs the boo boys wont start chastising the team. its universlly acknowledged this side needs some pretty major surgery and that even the club as a whole needs a bit of a reeboot well unless we're very fortunate and are one of those sides where it all just seemlessly falls into place be prepared to have a bit of a mixed bag of a season people. these things take time, it aint champ manager u know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 On 23/03/2017 at 13:51, sage said: May the fleas of a 1000 camels infest your armpits. Actually spat me tea out when I read that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 23 hours ago, mwram1973 said: Actually spat me tea out when I read that You can thank the great Spike Milligan for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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