StringerBell Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 9 hours ago, GboroRam said: There's a difference between posting a player isn't good enough or is underperforming, and suggesting he's a troublemaker or bad influence. Either way, we'd rather not give lawyers any grounds to sue due to defamation of character. As right as you are to be wary considering what happened with the Telegraph forum (if I've heard right) do you think people without a footballers money should get the same courtesy? I mean one of you moderators was quite happy to slander me as someone who doesn't like women ?). What if my name really was Stringer Bell and I was on the Forbes list? Would that change things? I'm just interested where the line is drawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Can't see any of our players getting poached at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoollyJumper Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, oomarkwright said: Can't see any of our players getting poached at the end of the season. So at the moment we couldn't even beat an egg, and none of our players would even get poached. That's eggsactly right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tram Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Can't a good chef cook delicious meals ... even if he has some bad eggs ... especially in a well equipped kitchen with a full larder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Chuck all the players in the pool at moor farm. if they float, sack em. if they sink, train em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Boycie said: Chuck all the players in the pool at moor farm. if they float, sack em. if they sink, train em. You're addled mate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igorwasking Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Interesting that both Johnson and Keogh were back training the day after McLaren was sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronRam 140.6 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 10 hours ago, Whitley ram said: There's a couple of angles which Pat Murphy has been pursuing on this. Out of control player power and MM the micro manager. There is possibly some truth in the first and the evidence certainly backs up the second! If the players have gone to MM to complain about SM then they can be accused of being disloyal. However they may have had a point. There can be no excuse for not giving 100% on the pitch, but if SM had lost their confidence and was unable to get them to gel into a unit (Friday certainly looked like that) then maybe blindly carrying on following his instructions wasn't something they were prepared to do. im not defending their alleged behaviour, but it is interesting that lots of the negative reaction to the sacking is more about the manner and timing than shock that it happened to SM. His stock after Newcastle was low enough. It is even lower now Interesting point this actually especially regarding unhappy players complaining above the mangers head. I'm sure in the olden days (pre 2000's) you just handed in a transfer request if you were pished off. Obviously you'd forfeit the remainder of your hugely inflated contract, but I can't think money would be a driving force for a footballer.......... ...would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, Boycie said: Chuck all the players in the pool at moor farm. if they float, sack em. if they sink, train em. A proven formula. Just make sure when Keogh goes in he has arm bands. Wouldn't want him treated unfairly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Unless people have proven knowledge then so called bad eggs are not apparent but if the senior players are asked about something they may have an opinion and the captain of any team has a role to represent and protect players so let's all pull behind the new manager and let him discard and recruit players for footballing reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdave85 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Cracking puns, everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Will Mel have the patience to allow us to have a rebuilding period? (vegan egg pun). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostedRam Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 26 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Unless people have proven knowledge then so called bad eggs are not apparent but if the senior players are asked about something they may have an opinion and the captain of any team has a role to represent and protect players so let's all pull behind the new manager and let him discard and recruit players for footballing reasons It's whether the players are undermining the manager. If so we will never achieve anything. Footballing wise they've proven they're not good enough, so that suggests all of them need to be sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 hours ago, FrostedRam said: It's whether the players are undermining the manager. If so we will never achieve anything. Footballing wise they've proven they're not good enough, so that suggests all of them need to be sold I am not exactly what undermining a football manager actually means? Apart from not trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Igorwasking said: Interesting that both Johnson and Keogh were back training the day after McLaren was sacked. Not really. McClaren said Keogh might be fit for the Brighton match, but he just missed out. Johnson I'm not sure exactly what his problem was. Besides, it was three days after the match. You can recover from a lot of niggles after three days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_d Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Not sure if Rowett had much experience of bad eggs at Birmingham City and Burton Albumen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantona Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 So, if BBC commentator Pat Murphy is to be believed, Derby have several players on £30,000 a week.....ridiculous for a Championship club who have not received parachute money. Who are these handsomely-paid players? Shackell, Bent, Ince, Bryson, Keogh? No wonder a lot of them are quite happy to stay in the Championship on high wages rather than have to fight for their place in a PL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Grantona said: So, if BBC commentator Pat Murphy is to be believed, Derby have several players on £30,000 a week.....ridiculous for a Championship club who have not received parachute money. When was that said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 hours ago, Sparkle said: I am not exactly what undermining a football manager actually means? Apart from not trying Not trying, feigning injury, going above the managers head to complain about your personal dissatisfaction. Just a few things that would constitute undermining a manager. There are probably more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, europia said: Not trying, feigning injury, going above the managers head to complain about your personal dissatisfaction. Just a few things that would constitute undermining a manager. There are probably more. But we dint know what the players have complained about. If you line manager ignores your concerns you are quite right to go above them. It's then for their line manager to decide if your concerns are legitimate or not and take relevant action, obviously in this case Mel thought the players had a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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