Leicester Ram Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, wixman1884 said: This is probably the best thing I've read on here in a while actually. Sums up my feelings over the last few years entirely down to the letter. That's right, lick my arse now, don't think I've forgotten you credit hogging the Martin poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 45 minutes ago, RamNut said: Phew Troy, you had he worried. for a second there i thought you weren't going to blame keogh I don't like to disappoint. That said, when an ongoing issue is leadership, the captain, whether Keogh/Pearce/Baird or whoever, deserve a mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Not sure about the mentality thing... It's more of a physical thing... Playing three games a week we seem to pick up injuries and tire more easily.. Also why we concede late on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Dethorn said: I cannot remember all the facts - some of you guys really impress me with your recall. Bu tI cannot believe noone has mentioned the Cup thing. I seem to remember about three or four times now going out of a cup/playing a weakened team/both when we are on a good run has kind of upset the rythmn/confidence/morale I think one of my examples was reading ?? Not saying this is everything but I wonder if it contributes. I agree, it could well be a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdave85 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, King Kevin said: Good post and I can see where you are coming from , I work in a very competitive environment and if that was someones C.V. I would say they are a loser and they are the excuse's which is pretty much where we are as a club. You must hold every club that doesn't win the Premier League in such high regard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 If I Read the word entitlement one more time I am going to scream.. How many more people can jump on the word of the month bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdave85 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, Angry Ram said: If I Read the word entitlement one more time I am going to scream.. How many more people can jump on the word of the month bandwagon. That's "bottlers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Angry Ram Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, ramit said: Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Dethorn said: I cannot remember all the facts - some of you guys really impress me with your recall. Bu tI cannot believe noone has mentioned the Cup thing. I seem to remember about three or four times now going out of a cup/playing a weakened team/both when we are on a good run has kind of upset the rythmn/confidence/morale I think one of my examples was reading ?? Not saying this is everything but I wonder if it contributes. Spot on, it breaks momentum and often causes more problems. Players prefer to play, they say that consistently, rhythm and winning is a habit. How often does resting players work? After the Reading no game I think we played Rotherham and that went wobbly I think. Leicester.. Say no more.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Spot on, it breaks momentum and often causes more problems. Players prefer to play, they say that consistently, rhythm and winning is a habit. How often does resting players work? After the Reading no game I think we played Rotherham and that went wobbly I think. Leicester.. Say no more.. The drop in performances started with the Wigan game IMO, and that was well before we rested players in the cup. And in fact, when we dropped points against Wigan, and then failed to win the next game, people were going mad at mcclaren for *not* resting players in the Wigan game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 3 hours ago, TroyDyer said: But that could be said of every other team in the league. We aren't the only team that gets injuries. I know. But I don't care about them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 6 hours ago, Ninos said: We don't adapt and improve and we get figured out and other teams become stronger teams faster than we do, as games pass. One clue is the fact that opposition managers have consistently pointed out and boasted that they set up to beat us and did it. That is a great clue to be fair. I guess when we win it's because the opposition set themselves up to lose against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 hours ago, King Kevin said: Good post and I can see where you are coming from , I work in a very competitive environment and if that was someones C.V. I would say they are a loser and they are the excuse's which is pretty much where we are as a club. Excuses or reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: That is a great clue to be fair. I guess when we win it's because the opposition set themselves up to lose against us. You learn quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 14 hours ago, Nuwtfly said: If it is a mentality problem - how do you fix it? Does the mentality come from the manager, the captain, or the chairman? I think its the fact we had too many specialist players who arent adaptable, and we relied on them performing for us to justify the system. Most clubs can just buy replacements, like for likes, but the Likes of Hughes and bryson are specialist types of midfield players. Who arent forwards, but they cant really play balanced central midfield either. Its no surprise we have looked better the last few games now we have finally ditched them and the 4-3-3 system. Its too simplistic to say Pearson tried to wreck it. The fact is we have built a team around Hughes and martin to suit them for seasons, and now they are not here or woefully out of form, then we are basically screwed. i dont see any specific mentality problem, other than the usual at what happens when you are not winning games, and struggling for consistancy. As i have said countless times, mac is the man, he needs time, one transfer window in which Evans hasnt been here long enough to bring anyone in, is not enough time to justify sacking him. I'd give Macclaren at least 2 seasons, and thats if we were doing poorly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerryDaly Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 19 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Please no more "we need a tough guy" stuff.....Pearson, Barton, Warnock, Pulis....na, not for me. We need a solid plan, some stable building and to pull together as a club. This seasons promise was dead by September. The winning run corrected itself and we are where we are. So our being in a play off position contained no promise ? And what exactly does "pull together as a club" mean ? I actually think our season was very much alive in December , but for some reason we've blown it again.Hence this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, GerryDaly said: So our being in a play off position contained no promise ? - Reletivly little in my opinion, it was a high point based on an unlikely run. being 5th in December doesn't mean much especially if you're 12th in March. And what exactly does "pull together as a club" mean ? - top management, manager, coaches, players, fans all having a clear idea of where we are, where we're going, how we're going to go there. I actually think our season was very much alive in December , but for some reason we've blown it again.Hence this thread. OK, you're entitled to that view. But it was very much dead in September - bottom 3, awful football, anything other than a season of abject misery was going to be success after pearson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 10 hours ago, cannable said: Excuses or reasons? I'm hard to please so failure to plan [excuses].Well it does keep happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 12 hours ago, mrdave85 said: You must hold every club that doesn't win the Premier League in such high regard Well there are only four or five that can win it on a regular basis so no.However a club like Derby capable of winning the Championship which gets itself into a good position every year and doesn't make it, if someone is not asking the question why I would be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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