Wolfie20 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, swiftur said: Keep baird as cover,2new full backs required+ 2 new centre halfs,[just put my tin helmet on] Just out of interest - you weren't the guy who contacted Radio Derby after the game saying Rowett needs to get rid of both central defenders were you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: He deserves it and I think he'd give good service. I'd be happy to see him next year. The only point I could see is wages if he's in the top bracket which is set to shrink. Pay him in smaller notes,lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I heard an interview where he didn't sound that interested in a new deal. he's playing well but i'd prefer that we moved forward with a super dooper new signing and let the older players move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Just out of interest - you weren't the guy who contacted Radio Derby after the game saying Rowett needs to get rid of both central defenders were you? No not me. lots of fans at the game agree though, rowett will sort the wheat from the chaff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I was happy when we signed him and I was in very small minority who wanted him to replace injured Christie. So I've been pretty much against the grain all the time, why change now? Eventhough I love the way he took his place in a team and especially those breathtaking weighted passes to Ince, I'd say now is good time to part our ways. He'll turn to 36 next season and some day the age will get him.It would be horrible scenario, if we had all to play for, other RB got injured and Baird's legs were gone. Just for the risk management, I'd thank for the memories, get a new RB in and keep Christe as a back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 18 minutes ago, swiftur said: No not me. lots of fans at the game agree though, rowett will sort the wheat from the chaff. Hope you're right that he does but I'd put money on Keogh retaining his place in Rowetts' defence next season and deservedly so. I prefer to back the judgement of Martin O'Neil, Nigel Clough, Paul Clement etc rather than some of the dolts who criticise his every move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minesahartington Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Yes. He has massively improved and you can see he is enjoying playing now he is not being asked to stay next to his own box. He actually gets forward now and pings in a great cross. I get the impression he has enjoyed showing us that he is a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Wolfie20 said: Hope you're right that he does but I'd put money on Keogh retaining his place in Rowetts' defence next season and deservedly so. I prefer to back the judgement of Martin O'Neil, Nigel Clough, Paul Clement etc rather than some of the dolts who criticise his every move. He helped get two of those the sack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I would 100% take up the option of another year. Personally I'd actually look to move Christie on, he's young and we'd command a decent fee for him. I'd bring In a young, hungry, untested, let him learn the role from Baird and let them compete over the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, swiftur said: He helped get two of those the sack! So using that logic you must be suggesting Rowett needs to get rid of the likes of Will Hughes, Chris Martin and Johnny Russell as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Not for me. We've stated we're reducing the squad size and I'd prefer the options to be Christie or Anya with Stabana providing cover if need be. Baird has improved (playing for his extension?) but I want a core of 20 instead of 30 players and releasing aging players at the end of their contracts is an obvious method of squad surgery. We haven't seen Christie under Rowett. I'm confident he'll improve and he has all the attributes to be a far more effective right back than Baird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Wolfie20 said: So using that logic you must be suggesting Rowett needs to get rid of the likes of Will Hughes, Chris Martin and Johnny Russell as well? collective responsibility,but no I would keep Russell and hughes,not convinced about martin coming back though.j Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, swiftur said: He helped get two of those the sack! Which 2? And how did he help with getting them the sack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said: Not for me. We've stated we're reducing the squad size and I'd prefer the options to be Christie or Anya with Stabana providing cover if need be. Baird has improved (playing for his extension?) but I want a core of 20 instead of 30 players and releasing aging players at the end of their contracts is an obvious method of squad surgery. We haven't seen Christie under Rowett. I'm confident he'll improve and he has all the attributes to be a far more effective right back than Baird. We haven't see Christie improve under any other manager though. He seems to have stagnated, and each year he performs this same way. For me, it's not about his physical aspects, which he has all of. But can you be taught to have a footballing brain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibby Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I would keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Andicis said: We haven't see Christie improve under any other manager though. He seems to have stagnated, and each year he performs this same way. For me, it's not about his physical aspects, which he has all of. But can you be taught to have a footballing brain? Disagree. I think Christie has become a fine full back who has certanly improved his game, and with the potential to get even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 11 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: Not for me. We've stated we're reducing the squad size and I'd prefer the options to be Christie or Anya with Stabana providing cover if need be. Baird has improved (playing for his extension?) but I want a core of 20 instead of 30 players and releasing aging players at the end of their contracts is an obvious method of squad surgery. We haven't seen Christie under Rowett. I'm confident he'll improve and he has all the attributes to be a far more effective right back than Baird. Christie hasn't the intelligence. And you can't teach that. You might as well not have Ince on the pitch while Christie's on - whereas Baird suits Ince to a tee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igorwasking Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I'd give Baird another 12 months, and keep Christie as back-up. I'd also keep Lowe and Forsyth, and let Olson go. Keogh must stay, and I would like to see Shackell alongside him (but if we get an offer for him, would not be gutted to see him go). I would keep Pearce and let Rawson develop as the other cover. Back five are good enough for me (subject to wages). The real areas we need to change are midfield and upfront. Again, all subject to wages, but keep Will, George and Bradley - add another young DM, and let Bryson and Butterfield go. Maybe Hanson could be the young DM? Keep Ince, Anya and Russell, and move on Camara and Blackman. Perhaps Bennet can be the young back up wide - but not convinced. Keep Nugent and Martin, and move on Bent. Vydra stays - but we would need another option. A young Biano would be good. anyone else older than 22 or on more than 10k should be moved on. This is the opinion of Igor - so surely can't be wrong?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 On 5.3.2017 at 17:48, Paul71 said: Agree 100 %, if he is happy to be squad cover that is i guess. He might want to go somewhere where he can be guaranteed a first team place, i do suspect if we stay free of injuries his game time would be limited. He has been excellent when called upon this season at right back and now in centre of defence though. Think he is much more Rowetts kind of player than Headless chicken Christie is. He is better defensively, and can put better balls in the box than Chrisitie. Your term "Cover" does him a disservice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 10 hours ago, Andicis said: We haven't see Christie improve under any other manager though. He seems to have stagnated, and each year he performs this same way. For me, it's not about his physical aspects, which he has all of. But can you be taught to have a footballing brain? Give me a break. The same criticism was leveled at Johnson Russell Keogh bla bla bla. Bottom line, and although we should keep Baird, is as Sagan says, Christie and Stabana are the future of RB at DCFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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