rammieib Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Watching their goal back today you have to worry; 1) Pearce gets dragged to the front post when every long throw in all game was reaching the penalty spot. 2) Christie bottles going in and winning it when he is marking nobody. Shambolic. 3) Baird with experience could take control although he and Johnson are marking. 4) Butterfield is marking Matty James. WTF? He must have thought every Christmas had come at once! 5) Carson has to take control on high balls coming in. Whipped or flat balls I understand but a throw in travelling for close on 3 seconds he must take control on. If this is our standard for set piece defensive set up, god help us because we will concede a lot more. It makes you wonder what Powell does on the defensive set up. Please get Shackell back in this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Shackell, the epitome of bravery and commitment?!?! Where's that facepalm gif!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Thought it was a good throw and great run and header myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Wouldn't happen under cloughie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, bigbadbob said: Wouldn't happen under cloughie Neither would our two goals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 The OP appears to blame 5 players for the goal?! At the match I thought Carson should have come out and collected it but not so sure having watched the replay. Good header to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Agreed Carson should be dealing with long throws. It's going to be coming in slow enough to come and punch at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 We really should have been doubling up on Matty James though, knowing that he was chasing his nineth career goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, EnigmaRam said: Agreed Carson should be dealing with long throws. It's going to be coming in slow enough to come and punch at least The throw landed a long way outside the six yard box, almost on the far post. There's no chance Carson would have been able to get near it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minesahartington Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 l blame keogh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 At the game I thought Carson was most at fault. After watching on television I'm critical of the whole set up. However for someone to suggest scoring a header from a throw in was a good goal and not a defensive mistake is worrying to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 4 hours ago, rammieib said: Watching their goal back today you have to worry; 1) Pearce gets dragged to the front post when every long throw in all game was reaching the penalty spot. 2) Christie bottles going in and winning it when he is marking nobody. Shambolic. 3) Baird with experience could take control although he and Johnson are marking. 4) Butterfield is marking Matty James. WTF? He must have thought every Christmas had come at once! 5) Carson has to take control on high balls coming in. Whipped or flat balls I understand but a throw in travelling for close on 3 seconds he must take control on. If this is our standard for set piece defensive set up, god help us because we will concede a lot more. It makes you wonder what Powell does on the defensive set up. Please get Shackell back in this team. We got done against Cardiff from a throw in too. Near post header on, leading to a goal. Looked like Pearce and a few others were expecting the same ... Charged to the near post , but it went into the middle to an unmarked man. Total shambles again. Still we won deservedly but we need to sort this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 6 hours ago, rammieib said: At the game I thought Carson was most at fault. After watching on television I'm critical of the whole set up. However for someone to suggest scoring a header from a throw in was a good goal and not a defensive mistake is worrying to say the least. Worrying? One player gets outjumped, it happens. Sometimes a player will have to mark someone taller or better in the air than them. It was a decent header. With a throw like that, it's akin to a cross, so should we also not concede any goals from crosses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Worrying? One player gets outjumped, it happens. Sometimes a player will have to mark someone taller or better in the air than them. It was a decent header. With a throw like that, it's akin to a cross, so should we also not concede any goals from crosses? Exactly, those goals stoke scored because of delaps throw ins where not all down to defensive msitakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 25 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Worrying? One player gets outjumped, it happens. Sometimes a player will have to mark someone taller or better in the air than them. It was a decent header. With a throw like that, it's akin to a cross, so should we also not concede any goals from crosses? Does it not worry you seeing Butterfield marking a bloke and Christie stood still watching it from three yards away. Nugent should be back as well. Crosses are different situations. Throw ins allow everyone to organise themselves. Sorry but out Defensive organisation is shambolic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I'm no footballing authority but what I notice is that from every corner Carson gets crowded out by the opposition defenders and yet we don't seem to put pressure on the opposition keeper when defending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 32 minutes ago, rammieib said: Does it not worry you seeing Butterfield marking a bloke and Christie stood still watching it from three yards away. Nugent should be back as well. Crosses are different situations. Throw ins allow everyone to organise themselves. Sorry but out Defensive organisation is shambolic. There are 11 players on each team, someone may end up marking someone taller or better in the air than them. We've let some shambolic goals in recently, having watched yesterday's back I would not have it in that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 We've still got the third best defence. Amazing really given the number of soft goals conceded from corners. i noticed the big no4 wasn't marked on a couple occasions. I assumed we'd taken up zonal marking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, RamNut said: We've still got the third best defence. Amazing really given the number of soft goals conceded from corners. i noticed the big no4 wasn't marked on a couple occasions. I assumed we'd taken up zonal marking. Goals happen! It's not as thought that back 4 is our chosen defence. But even so I thought Butterfield looked a bit rooted to the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We'll be back in 81 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 It was Butterfields man and he did not do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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